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Might have changed my mind re death penalty. #1036304
28th Apr 2017 5:18pm
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Reading this article made me so mad I dont even want my tea!!! This MONSTER hung up, stabbed and set on fire his LIVE bullterrier mix and it looks like from the picture, he then decapitated it.

http://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/1...orrific_act_of_animal_cruelty_in_Wirral/

What did he get ? SIX months - so he'll probably serve only 12 weeks (after hes served his existing sentence for earlier ARSON !!!! Beggars belief doesnt it.

Shocked animal welfare officials are asking people to join the campaign for much harsher penalties. Basically asking you to write to your MP. Wish they had put a link to an appropriate petition.
www.battersea.org.uk/NotFunny



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The lads obviously got mental issues having burnt his flat down previously. Big decision.... .
What makes people commit these disgusting acts?

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If he has fish, then he shouldnt have been given anything other than a section 8 type of
sentence. As it is, he has been deemed normal enough to be sent to 'normal' prison ,in which case the sentence is in my opinion far too short . It doesnt fit the wickedness of the crime.

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Horrific act of cruelty this, poor dog suffered so much still alive when he burnt and buried it! I read that he said he never liked the dog anyway! People like this who seem to like inflicting pain on animals have been known to move on to humans, scary man..

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Exactly Cools, such horror and he clearly needs serious psychological help before his next victim. How many times have people been allowed out only to go one step further, this has all the hallmarks.

If it was a human, it would be life, an animal 6 months ?? The very act is clearly from a deranged, unemotional, callous, vicious, demonised individual.

Imagine being his girlfriend. nono


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Section 8?? Duh, sorry , meant 'sectioned' as in mental health hospital.

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OMG Venice I darent even look at it ! Until the law is changed the RSPCA officials must feel totally let down. I've sent an email & hope everyone does the same. Animals are living things ,they feel pain like we do so should be shown the same support . Regardless of this cruel persons state of mind I'm sure if they had exacted the same torture on a human they would have received suitable punishment.

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Its haunting isnt it. Just horrible .

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Also sent email and shared it.

If people are concerned they need to contact their MP. Put your postcode in, address and your MP will come up, then send the letter which is already written for you. After all, your MP is the one to contact if you want change. We don't get a bad mark against us or anything scary, it's all very painless. Please do.


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Why can't you people realise that demanding vengeance is not going to solve anything?

Sometimes people do really bad things. Even normally good people do bad things sometimes. I don't believe for a moment that there are 'bad' people and 'good' people. We are all victims of our circumstances and some react well and others badly. To add to this, there are people who are suffering a mental illness. How 'bad' or 'good' are they?

If your aim is to satisfy your feelings of revulsion, fair enough. But if you really want to stop things like this happening it might be a better idea to find out why this happens, and take action to prevent those reasons reoccurring. 'Righteous indignation' is a rather dodgy idea in my opinion, and those who express it reveal more of themselves than I think they realise. We all feel revulsion at what was done, but I do not believe this should preclude some empathy with the chap who did it.

It seems to me that to do something like this, the perpetrator must have been in a pretty bad place. An attempt to investigate this seems to me likely to be more productive than mindless cries for the death penalty, flogging, or indefinite imprisonment.


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Oh purleeeze, I'm sure the perpetrators of such heinous acts would be more deterred from committing them if they had commensurate retribution to fear rather than "empathy".

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There are those that accept we live in a society and have to obey the society's rules and there are those that don't.

Those that choose not accept the rules have no right to benefit from living in the society and should be thrown out at the minimum cost.

When there is nowhere else to send them to, the death penalty should be considered.

Its not about vengeance its about deterrence and the safety of the society.

If you want to live without the rules, find somewhere else out of society or suffer the consequences.


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Apropos nothing DD, congratulations on passing 10,000 posts.

Re: Might have changed my mind re death penalty. [Re: venice] #1036372
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EMPATHY..with this cretin, you must be joking!! I'm sick of heinous crimes being committed on humans and animals,and then mental issues or because they suffered abuse as children etc etc being used as reasons. Some people seem to be born evil and enjoy inflicting pain and then go further to the extreme. Why should decent people have to excuse and pander to these lowlife..watch it Excoriator that halos slipping...

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Well said cools and DD. In full agreement.

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