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I've got to say Rude it surprises me you putting this statement up whenever royalty has come up on this site you one of the first to rubbish them. Have you become a royalist all of a sudden? A* for your observant skills, Cools. No, not a royalist but the gov do not accept similiar petition.
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Yes so they have their uses after all when it pleases people as a tool to use when they think fit! The Queen has had to meet very unsavory leaders whether she wanted to or not. Horrors like Idi Amin, Robert Magabwe, these dictators killed their own people and committed more atrocities than Trump has to date.
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Very true, Cools. No body seemed to oppose the Chinese leader, who came on a State Visit , a little over 12 months ago. Oh, and while we are here and just for the record, going back to 2012. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...friend-to-Hamas-Iran-and-extremists.htmlJeremy Corbyn, friend to Hamas, Iran and extremists If Jeremy Corbyn wins, Labour will be in the extraordinary position of having a leader with among the most extensive links in Parliament to terrorists
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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President Trump is not being racist,He is only stopping the Islamic terrorists entering the USA.
He is protecting the people of America.
Pity all the other countries cannot see this,EVEN THE UK.
Everyone signing petitions and getting there knickers in a twist.
Nigel Farage will gladly invite him.This man has always been right.
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Yes so they have their uses after all when it pleases people as a tool to use when they think fit! The Queen has had to meet very unsavory leaders whether she wanted to or not. Horrors like Idi Amin, Robert Magabwe, these dictators killed their own people and committed more atrocities than Trump has to date.  
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well said cools and snowy
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Makes a change to our normal strategic policy of antagonising (eg Russia) or bombing (Syria, Iraq, etc etc etc). If you want a peaceful change/resolution you have to talk.
Do all the people that think banning Trump from the state visit is going to change his mind on policy?
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Exactly DD. I think we should be keeping our noses out, particularly as UK passport holders and joint UK passport holders, have been given the all clear. Let the other countries do their own negotiations. Considering they had Guy Verhofstadt , and his new book telling us how the EU should be organised, and basically a blue print for the Federal State in the making, plus this protest nonsense, I have to wonder if there's movement afoot of anti- Brexiteers ( colluding with the BBC and Londoners) who are attempting to throw spanners in the works. Let's see what else transpires this week. We can probably also guess where the majority of petitioners live. President Trump is not being racist,He is only stopping the Islamic terrorists entering the USA.
He is protecting the people of America.
Pity all the other countries cannot see this,EVEN THE UK.
Everyone signing petitions and getting there knickers in a twist.
Nigel Farage will gladly invite him.This man has always been right. Agreed Snowy, Nigel Farage did us all a favour. As you remember I loved listening to his speeches in the EU parliament , he seemed to be able to make the rest of them squirm with the truths which they didn't like which are now coming out, some are apparently mentioned in Guy Verhofstadt book ! So, now they are also admitting they were wrong, or telling lies but tonight BBC showed Guy Verhofstadt having a slanging match at Farage. Another point to be questioned, as Farage, last I heard, is going to Fox News US as Political commentator. So why did they show such a clip, maybe he can't defend himself now. It's all one big game but I still think we should keep our nose out of Trumps decisions for US, even though I don't like the man and still wish he hadn't been elected.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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Sorry to hear the news from your country Snowshoes. These are the things that create the bad feelings.
I must admit, I do like Trudeau, he seems a decent ,straight forward guy.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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One more thing, slightly off topic although Obama has been accused of a similar thing. (could be fake news) Speculation about the German Government flying in refugees from Turkey on numerous secret night flights. Going back to last August. Has this been verified at all ? If this is correct, what the heck IS going on. It's as if the edge of Europe and the Middle East are being cleared out !!
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Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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There again, Trump is pushing for safe zones to be created in countries like Syria and Yemen, its a much better concept than a mass exodus.
Inside of the safe zones there would be minimal requirement for external agencies to do the policing, our job would be enforcing the exclusion zone round the safe zone, much better than bombing towns and cities where there are innocent civilians.
We've done this before in other places, why have we not done it in Syria?
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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please sign this Google support Trump uk .gov petition 178844
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Trump is inexperienced politically and will so do things in an odd sort of way relative to mainstream politicians - BUT, many months ago he did say that within his first week he would "do something to get greater border security for the USA. Whether or not you like "the wall" (or whether or not it technically can be constructed) and whether or not you like the apparent block on visas/ temporary suspension of visas for some folk -- he has done what he said he would do. The American people KNEW what he said. They voted him into office. He is now doing what he said. What a strange world we live in - a politician (of sorts) who keeps promises. Snod
5 Precepts of Buddhism seem appropriate. Refrain from taking life. Refrain from taking that which is not given. Refrain from misconduct. Refrain from lying. Refrain from intoxicants which lead to loss of mindfulness
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please sign this Google support Trump uk .gov petition 178844 Is this the one Joeblogs ? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
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yes granny that's the one
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