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cools #1029555 26th Jan 2017 12:45pm
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And more.
Pity other countries will not take a leaf out of his book.
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. laugh

Netherlands welcome Trump

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Latest interview of Trump (the man of many words)

He will be happy to take Syrian Christian refugees, because he thinks the way ISIS beheaded the Syrian Christians, was .....wait for it........

'very unfair' omg

Or maybe it was because Syrian Christians were not allowed into the USA as very unfair.. not too sure.

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https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Prevent Donald Trump from making a State Visit to the United Kingdom.

Donald Trump should be allowed to enter the UK in his capacity as head of the US Government, but he should not be invited to make an official State Visit because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen.

Donald Trump's well documented misogyny and vulgarity disqualifies him from being received by Her Majesty the Queen or the Prince of Wales. Therefore during the term of his presidency Donald Trump should not be invited to the United Kingdom for an official State Visit.

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Is there a precedent ? Have we ever prevented any other head of state visiting because of their uncouth or disapproved of behaviour ?

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I don't think there has been a date set for his official visit to the UK yet, so petitions are a bit premature.

Things might well change long before then.



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. Ah well, another great victory for the man in The White House ! He's so lacking in Presidential skills, he's actually hilarious. Who else seeing this pic. has a chuckle to themselves ?

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not me,we need him here in the uk,at least he dose what he says

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not me,we need him here in the uk,at least he dose what he says
This is true,totally agree.
Obama stopped illegals coming from IRAQ to America for 6 months.Notice the UK and others involved did not kick up a stink about that.
I wonder why???.

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Trump's selective bans. Yellow = countries where he has business interests.

All except Azerbaijan have killed Americans on US soil.

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Well the designated countries are more than likely to retaliate. So I hope this move of his, although seeming to protect USA, is more likely to see a purge of revenge against US citizens and US troops. I think he is putting them in a lot of danger. Then what would his retaliation trigger be ? Isn't this how wars start ??

He could have handled things differently.

Just one thing, as a country, should we support this action of his or not? Considering everyone with an axe to grind is wielding it and jumping up and down, but it would appear that general public views indicate they are mostly behind Trump (apart from those who have signed the petition which was started by a solicitor from Leeds. FFS ! )

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I think he's done this a bit crudely and needed a little refinement before presentation , and Im not hell bent believing on what Im about to say because Im dithering about rights and wrongs --- ,but I cant help thinking -

lets pretend we had a killer disease spreading around the world , but it could be carried only by people with a certain genetic makeup .Out of those, relatively few might have something extra in their makeup that precludes their transmitting the disease. Which answer would protect the UK from the spread of disease the best ?

Should we

a) stop every person from entering the UK immediately

b) stop just those from countries where we know most will be of this genetic makeup and not worry immediately about the ones who wouldnt be a danger becaue they carry the extra protection.

c) Let everyone in so we dont infringe anyones human rights, and set about vetting everyone carefully for signs of the disease ?

Remember this ban would only be for a few months until the situation could be got under control.

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its a of course,if it was red lorry's carrying bombs we would be stopping them,these people protesting today why are they not in work?blind and to much time on there hands,this guy has balls
and we need someone like him here,but i think its to late for the uk its a shat hole already

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Originally Posted by venice
I think he's done this a bit crudely and needed a little refinement before presentation , and Im not hell bent believing on what Im about to say because Im dithering about rights and wrongs --- ,but I cant help thinking -

lets pretend we had a killer disease spreading around the world , but it could be carried only by people with a certain genetic makeup .Out of those, relatively few might have something extra in their makeup that precludes their transmitting the disease. Which answer would protect the UK from the spread of disease the best ?

Should we

a) stop every person from entering the UK immediately

b) stop just those from countries where we know most will be of this genetic makeup and not worry immediately about the ones who wouldnt be a danger becaue they carry the extra protection.

c) Let everyone in so we dont infringe anyones human rights, and set about vetting everyone carefully for signs of the disease ?

Remember this ban would only be for a few months until the situation could be got under control.


It should be a) initially then re-assess to see if you can move to b), but our political leaders would end up doing it the other way round and hope they can correct their mistake afterwards.


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