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Originally Posted by chriskay
First street tramway in Europe, 1860.

I've nothing from the era of the Industrial Revolution, although I'm lucky to live within a few miles of its birthplace in Coalbrookdale.


i went to the victorian village and farm its brilliant

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With a recent thread about the tunnel & ferries, I thought it might be worth resurrecting this thread from nearly five years ago. If you enlarge it, the text is just about readable.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
With a recent thread about the tunnel & ferries, I thought it might be worth resurrecting this thread from nearly five years ago. If you enlarge it, the text is just about readable.


Oh my god. Those toll charges are a minefield
How long did the complicated tariffs stand

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if you were caught carrying nitroglycerine, you'd get a large fine and the nitro. would be thrown overboard!!

WTF?
Its like the wild west grin
I'm not joking, it is like the wild west omg

You are quite right Chris, it is worth resurrecting wink

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I have only read part of the toll charges, believe me when I say, people were different back then
The toll covered everything (well almost) including corpses. A cab and horse was 1d but a corpse was 2s 6d. What!? A lorry or wagon with 2 horses was 2s 6d, hahahaha

A pram was 2d
God only knows what a passengers fare is

"Luggage, furniture, rafts or timber and any other articles not particularly enumerated on this list may be carried and charged as per special agreement" laugh
I love it, it seems worse than customs

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Oh my god grin New Ferry toll: corpse inclusive of bearers 10s, I bet a few tagged along there claiming to be bearers

Barrel of petroleum, 4d from Woodside
0 from New Ferry
6d from Rock Ferry
None of this makes sense laugh

The number of passengers they can carry are huge, 'SS Bidston 1603'
'SS Claughton and Lancashire 1694'
They even had a paddle steamer 'PS Birkenhead 1230'
I don't know what today's ferry's can hold but I don't think it is 1000 plus

Even the porters charges are sceptical
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Originally Posted by mikeeb


Barrel of petroleum, 4d from Woodside
0 from New Ferry
6d from Rock Ferry
None of this makes sense laugh


The pence column is missing from the New Ferry list. The charge is actually 6d. same as Rock Ferry.


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Originally Posted by chriskay
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Barrel of petroleum, 4d from Woodside
0 from New Ferry
6d from Rock Ferry
None of this makes sense laugh


The pence column is missing from the New Ferry list. The charge is actually 6d. same as Rock Ferry.


You just spoiled it for me Chris grin
I must say, fascinating figures and contrasts between the ferries

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I remember there being in service what I think was called a baggage boat which took horse drawn and motor vehicles which was boarded via the floating roadway to the left of the ferry terminal at Woodside. I think the tunnel saw an end to this.

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Originally Posted by joney
I remember there being in service what I think was called a baggage boat which took horse drawn and motor vehicles which was boarded via the floating roadway to the left of the ferry terminal at Woodside. I think the tunnel saw an end to this.


My parents referred to them as the "Luggage Boats" and
I think they ran until just after WW2.

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Either online or somewhere on Wiki there are a couple of pics of laden luggage boats
Here are 2 pics of the floating roadway


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Luggage Boats, Barnston and Churton were scrapped in 1939, they were sent to Rotterdam to be broken up.

Luggage Boats, Oxton, Bebington and Liscard were fitted with cranes during the war. Amongst other duties they also lifted planes sent from the states from American ships when they missed the tides. The ships would have to anchor and the luggage boats brought the planes ashore.

Pic of Barnston & Churton being towed away for scrapping.

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Interesting vid at 5.30 mark of vehicles/carts ready to load at liverpool click on last post in topic

or youtube

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