A rally will be held on Saturday 2/7/2016 in Liverpool city centre by supporters wanting Jeremy Corbyn to remain Labour leader.
The event, set to be held from midday, on Paradise Street, is being advertised on social media under the strapline “Unite against the Tories. Defend Jeremy Corbyn.”
The current crisis within the Parliamentary Labour Party is deeply regrettable and unnecessary. Last week’s vote to leave the European Union presents the entire labour movement with unprecedented challenges. Above all, we need to be fighting to preserve our members’ jobs, already under threat in several industries and across the public sector as a consequence. The government is in crisis, but already serious debates are taking place and decisions being made which profoundly affect the interests of working people. Under these circumstances, our members and millions of others will be looking with dismay at the events in parliament. It cannot be right to seek to denude the Labour front bench at this time, when the government more than ever needs to be scrutinised and held to account by an effective and united opposition that does the job it is paid to do Jeremy Corbyn is the democratically-elected Leader of our Party who secured such a resounding mandate less than ten months ago under an electoral procedure fully supported by Labour MPs. His position cannot and should not be challenged except through the proper democratic procedures provided for in the Party’s constitution. We urge all Labour MPs to abide by those procedures, and to respect the authority of the Party’s Leader. While we have stated that we believe a Leadership election would be an unwelcome distraction at this time of crisis, if one nevertheless occurs through the proper procedures we would expect all parts of the Party to honour the result and pull together in the interests of the country, and working people in particular. The only party that can win for working people is a strong and united Labour Party. Len McCluskey, General Secretary, Unite the Union
I think Angela Eagle might be off to the Job Centre soon. As a Wallasey Labour Party member, Jeremy Corbyn has my full support. Much better than all these Blairite throwbacks. Angela doesn't give a toss about Wallasey. And I think the feeling is probably mutual!
In the 80s you attempted to get rid of Frank Field but in those days your banner read Militant Tendency and N Kinnock kicked you all out of the Labour Party.
Ships that pass in the night, seldom seen and soon forgoten
Why does Angela keep promising to mount a leadership bid, and then backing down at the last moment?
My theory is that they still hope Jeremy will back down and 'do the decent thing'. I don't believe he should or will. Let Ms Eagle stand against him and lose. There is every chance she will also lose her seat if she does, and the whole thing is a bluff on her part.
The right thing is for the rebel MPs to stand down as MP's and perhaps better and more loyal candidates can be chosen and voted in.
In the 80s you attempted to get rid of Frank Field but in those days your banner read Militant Tendency and N Kinnock kicked you all out of the Labour Party.
Labour/Socialism/democracy has been internally attacked from the left and now is being internally attacked from the right but we will survive never mind what is thrown at us.
Originally Posted by Excoriator
Why does Angela keep promising to mount a leadership bid, and then backing down at the last moment?
I think she is waiting to see how much support the Corbyn rallies indicate (I've booked my flagstone and ordered my Breton hat).
I also think she thought Unity would accept her as a candidate and may have been put straight on this.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
I would have thought that 60,000 people joining the party in the last week would have had some effect on the decision.
It is the nightmare scenario for the PLP; a takeover by the people! What they think it need now to stop it is for someone to stand against him, knowing that this is an act of personal political suicide. So far they have a couple of sacrificial lambs teetering on the cliff edge politely saying "After you" to each other but no jumpers.
Its all very well announcing your support for Corbyn, but how many of you actually know him or work with him?
You're just basing your opinions upon what you've seen in the papers or on TV.
He was successful because he was the only alternative to the New Labour lot who stood for party leader. Just because he won that doesn't mean he's a good leader, and has shown this to be the case over the past couple of months.
He has a habit of blanking and ignoring people when he doesn't like what they have to say, or if he doesn't get his own way. That is no way for a party leader to behave, nor a potential world leader if he ever became PM.
A political leader and a company/team leader are completely different entities.
Looking through UK history most of the party leaders have not been the most enigmatic or charismatic of people.
The support Corbyn has got is remarkable, surely that is the sign of a leader. The labour party has the largest membership of any political party in the UK, when Corbyn came it had the highest rise of any political party in the UK.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Sixty thousand Tories joining The Labour Party to keep Jeremy Corbyn as leader, is genious forward thinking in my opinion.
Lying and cheating - shows their true morality, their desperation and their obvious fear that they will be beaten. 60,000 is a pittance anyway, Corbyn will win without that.
Many Tories are more left than some of the Labour MPs so in some ways it would be a good swap.
Great Rally in Liverpool today, about 400 there when I first arrived ahead of time, this swelled to over 1000 before 1230. By the time of the march to the second location I wouldn't be surprised if it exceeded 2000 (I'll check my footage). Sound system didn't hack it unfortunately so quite a lot meandered away before the end.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
I am sure he will win what is "LEFT" of the party. A labour Government is a distant dream. I remember partying when Blair got in and took the country for a ride.They are like a box of mixed chocolates without the descriptive lid. A pig in a poke! unless you particuly dislike one they are all going to turn into S---E.
What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.
What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.
When you become a Labour Supporter you swear an allegiance the same as you do for any other political party - so what did the Labour Party do different?
The statement is "I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it"
If you sign up knowing full well that is false then you are lying, cheating, have no morals and clearly don't believe in democracy.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
What arrant nonsense. The Labour party foolishly allowed it to happen. It was entirely moral for those who acted thus to reduce the possibility of a Labour government by helping to elect someone totally unsuited to be a leader of a tiddly-winks team, let alone a major political party.
When you become a Labour Supporter you swear an allegiance the same as you do for any other political party - so what did the Labour Party do different?
The statement is "I support the aims and values of the Labour Party, I am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it"
If you sign up knowing full well that is false then you are lying, cheating, have no morals and clearly don't believe in democracy.
Is it possible that you may, one day, join us in the real world?
It certainly shows the character of some leading Tories, Oops, granny said I've not to mention them, but what an odious bunch they are they have no loyalty to each other,self first, so how could they possibly have any empathy for the ordinary person? dog eat dog politics, rolling in the gutter for all to see.
It was the message, not the messenger that got Jeremy Corbyn elected as Labour Party leader (the other candidates obviously not striking the right chord with the voters) Instead of the mps getting right behind him right from the start (against the democratic vote of ordinary labour voters)there's been a number of mps and the media sniping away at him finally using the pathetic excuse he didn't do enough for the remain side (considering more labour voted to stay than David Cameron got from the tories. If it comes to a labour leadership contest I'd assume that since the tories say they'd want him to be the leader (because their propaganda says it will make the labour party weaker - not the fact they're scared stiff because of their cuts and austerity program he could possibly win the next election on a lot of what he stands for) they'd encourage their supporters to try to get in on the vote and vote for Corbyn. In reality they'd vote for him to go as there is likely to be more cuts and austerity to come plus There will be more selling off of the country's silver for short term gains.
George Osborne has already marked himself out as the biggest seller of the country's silver since the time of Margaret Thatcher.
Since becoming Chancellor, he has flogged at least £37.7 billion of state assets - with another £20 billion reportedly up for grabs this year.
"The Government are privatising the profits of the Land Registry – which made a surplus of £100 million in 2012/13 – whilst retaining the risk.
It was the message, not the messenger that got Jeremy Corbyn elected as Labour Party leader (the other candidates obviously not striking the right chord with the voters) Instead of the mps getting right behind him right from the start (against the democratic vote of ordinary labour voters)there's been a number of mps and the media sniping away at him finally using the pathetic excuse he didn't do enough for the remain side (considering more labour voted to stay than David Cameron got from the tories. If it comes to a labour leadership contest I'd assume that since the tories say they'd want him to be the leader (because their propaganda says it will make the labour party weaker - not the fact they're scared stiff because of their cuts and austerity program he could possibly win the next election on a lot of what he stands for) they'd encourage their supporters to try to get in on the vote and vote for Corbyn. In reality they'd vote for him to go as there is likely to be more cuts and austerity to come plus There will be more selling off of the country's silver for short term gains.
George Osborne has already marked himself out as the biggest seller of the country's silver since the time of Margaret Thatcher.
Since becoming Chancellor, he has flogged at least £37.7 billion of state assets - with another £20 billion reportedly up for grabs this year.
"The Government are privatising the profits of the Land Registry – which made a surplus of £100 million in 2012/13 – whilst retaining the risk.
Sorry! I didn't know you could join for a pound.I am thinking about it.I am not a Tory only support myself and a socialist.My problem is I am olso a realist and like to speak my mind, which could debar me.The Wallasey meeting was I hear, quite a rowdy affair.
The elites hate Momentum and the Corbynites - and I’ll tell you why - David Graeber The movement that backed the Labour leader challenges MPs and journalists alike – because it’s about grassroots democracy
As the rolling catastrophe of what’s already being called the “chicken coup” against the Labour leadership winds down, pretty much all the commentary has focused on the personal qualities, real or imagined, of the principal players.
Yet such an approach misses out on almost everything that’s really at stake here. The real battle is not over the personality of one man, or even a couple of hundred politicians. If the opposition to Jeremy Corbyn for the past nine months has been so fierce, and so bitter, it is because his existence as head of a major political party is an assault on the very notion that politics should be primarily about the personal qualities of politicians. It’s an attempt to change the rules of the game, and those who object most violently to the Labour leadership are precisely those who would lose the most personal power were it to be successful: sitting politicians and political commentators.
If you talk to Corbyn’s most ardent supporters, it’s not the man himself but the project of democratising the party that really sets their eyes alight. The Labour party, they emphasise, was founded not by politicians but by a social movement. Over the past century it has gradually become like all the other political parties – personality (and of course, money) based, but the Corbyn project is first and foremost to make the party a voice for social movements once again, dedicated to popular democracy (as trades unions themselves once were). This is the immediate aim. The ultimate aim is the democratisation not just of the party but of local government, workplaces, society itself.
‘I’ve spent much of the last two decades working in movements aimed at creating new forms of bottom-up democracy, from the Global Justice Movement to Occupy Wall Street [2011].’
I should emphasise that I am myself very much an outside observer here – but one uniquely positioned, perhaps, to understand what the Corbynistas are trying to do. I’ve spent much of the past two decades working in movements aimed at creating new forms of bottom-up democracy, from the Global Justice Movement to Occupy Wall Street. It was our strong conviction that real, direct democracy, could never be created inside the structures of government. One had to open up a space outside. The Corbynistas are trying to prove us wrong. Will they be successful? I have absolutely no idea. But I cannot help find it a fascinating historical experiment. The spearhead of the democratisation movement is Momentum, which now boasts 130 chapters across the UK. In the mainstream press it usually gets attention only when some local activist is accused of “bullying” or “abuse” against their MP – or worse, suggests the possibility that an MP who systematically defies the views of membership might face deselection.
The real concern is not any justified fear among the Labour establishment of bullying and intimidation – the idea that the weak would bully the strong is absurd. It is that they fear being made truly accountable to those they represent. They also say that while so far they have been forced to concentrate on internal party politics, the object is to move from a politics of accountability to one of participation: to create forms of popular education and decision-making that allow community groups and local assemblies made up of citizens of all political stripes to make key decisions affecting their lives.
There have already been local experiments: in Thanet, the council recently carried out an exercise in “participatory economic planning” – devolving budgetary and strategic decisions to the community at large – which shadow chancellor John McDonnell has hailed as a potential model for the nation. There is talk of giving consultative assemblies real decision-making powers, of “banks of radical ideas” to which anyone can propose policy initiatives and, especially in the wake of the coup, a major call to democratise the internal workings of the party itself. It may all seem mad. Perhaps it is. But more than 100,000 new Labour members are already, to one degree or another, committed to the project.
If nothing else, understanding this makes it much easier to understand the splits in the party after the recent rebellion within the shadow cabinet. Even the language used by each side reflects basically different conceptions of what politics is about. For Corbyn’s opponents, the key word is always “leadership” and the ability of an effective leader to “deliver” certain key constituencies. For Corbyn’s supporters “leadership” in this sense is a profoundly anti-democratic concept. It assumes that the role of a representative is not to represent, not to listen, but to tell people what to do.
For Corbynistas, in contrast, the fact that he is in no sense a rabble rouser, that he doesn’t seem to particularly want to be prime minister, but is nonetheless willing to pursue the goal for the sake of the movement, is precisely his highest qualification. While one side effectively accuses him of refusing to play the demagogue during the Brexit debate, for the other, his insistence on treating the public as responsible adults was the quintessence of the “new kind of politics” they wished to see.
What all this suggests is the possibility that the remarkable hostility to Corbyn displayed by even the left-of-centre media is not due to the fact they don’t understand what the movement that placed him in charge of the Labour party is ultimately about, but because, on some level, they actually do.
After all, insofar as politics is a game of personalities, of scandals, foibles and acts of “leadership”, political journalists are not just the referees – in a real sense they are the field on which the game is played. Democratisation would turn them into reporters once again, in much the same way as it would turn politicians into representatives. In either case, it would mark a dramatic decline in personal power and influence. It would mark an equally dramatic rise in power for unions, constituent councils, and local activists – the very people who have rallied to Corbyn’s support.
Check out this program about decision making on bbc iplayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03wyr3c It makes you think, are you actually choosing or has the choice already been made for you without actually thinking about it A thought provoking programme
Anyway, back on topic I reckon all this in fighting between the MP's will lose voters of the party as a whole And that goes for the tories as well
Yeah, I think the camera is limited to 10 minute clips before the cmos sensor overheats and I had no idea how long the parade was so I thought I'd speed things up. I had only planned to take photos, I didn't think that many people were going to turn up.
I'll put another vid up in a while, once its uploaded.
We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
