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Bombed Birkenhead

Posted By: bert1

Bombed Birkenhead - 5th Dec 2008 5:20pm

I wonder where and what shop this was and did these little girls live a long and happy life.

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Posted By: _Ste_

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 5th Dec 2008 5:39pm

? wheres it from bert?
Posted By: hoseman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 5th Dec 2008 6:54pm

That teddiy doesnt look too healthy tho!! raftl
Good pic, is it a local one mate?
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 5th Dec 2008 8:26pm

ste, loose pages I've got from a book, don't know which one though. I'll put others on when i get my act together, center of Birkenhead, flour mills, argyle theatre. little girls must be local, picture was with the others.
Posted By: BMW Joe

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 6th Dec 2008 12:16am

Get the rest up Bert, looking forward to seeing them smile
Posted By: _Ste_

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 6th Dec 2008 12:20am

yeah man, good stuff, love to see the flour mills ones thumbsup
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 7:39am

don't know what shop and exactly where.

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Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 3 - 6th Dec 2008 8:00am

Bombed Buchanan's flour mills

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Posted By: uptoncx

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 8:18am

Originally Posted by bert1
don't know what shop and exactly where.


William Bernard's ironmongers store on Hamilton Street
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 9:10am

Thank you and well done Uptoncx
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 11:29am

excellent thanks for Sharing bert thumbsup
Posted By: BMW Joe

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 11:33am

Great Pictures Bert smile
Posted By: MissGuided

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Dec 2008 11:56am

Wow - amazing. Its difficult to imagine what life was like during the war.
Posted By: Shambo

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 7th Dec 2008 10:57am

Thanks 4 sharing Bert. smile
Posted By: Morseman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 7th Dec 2008 11:31am

Originally Posted by bert1
don't know what shop and exactly where.


Think that is Argyle street?

Oops didn't see the previous mention of Hamilton street.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:29pm

Argyle theatre,bombed.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:32pm

German bomber brought down in Bromborough dock.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:34pm

German bombing targets of Wirral and Liverpool

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:35pm

German bombing targets of Garston

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:37pm

Luftwaffe ariel photograph of targets at speke.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:38pm

Lairds during WW11.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:44pm

Wallasey town hall

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:49pm

I know it`s not Birkenhead but still interesting pics.Grovener Rd Wallasey.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:51pm

Poulton Rd/Sherlock Lane.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:53pm

Bombed ferry boat.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:57pm

One of you guys asked for pics of the dragons teeth at Moreton.I will put it on here as I`ve lost the original thread.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 17th Dec 2008 11:59pm

Lancaster Ave.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 12:03am

parachute mine at Leasowe.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 12:05am

Rowson St.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 12:10am

11 June 1941, photgraph of Liverpool taken from 1,800 ft.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:02am

excellent pics dava thumbsup thanks for Sharing wink
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:04am

No probs mate,got loads more.Will post them when I get some more time to dig them out mate.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:08am

Wallasey Homeguard.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:10am

The next load of pics are from Wirral in general,exact locations are unknown but all pics are from local areas.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:13am

Bomb crater,uxb team in the background.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:15am

destroyed shops.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:18am

Wallasey Village

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:19am

UXB team

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:21am

UXB

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:24am

More from around Wallasey town hall.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:26am

outside town hall

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:28am

public shelter (surface shelter)

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:30am

Norwood Rd,possible emergency water suppyl (EWS)

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:33am

Bomb damage,notice the white lines painted on the left hand kerb stones.These were to aid you during blackouts.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:35am

local Bobby and ARP warden inspecting an empty building.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:37am

destroyed.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:42am

This will give you an idea of how much force it took to blow this car onto it`s roof and over a garden wall.Please give a thought to all who had to endure the grief and misery suffered during 39-44,not to mention all who gave thier life.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:44am

another vehicle wrote off.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:45am

more destruction.


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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:47am

another surface shelter,this one has signs of bomb damage.but it is still standing.it`s done it`s job.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:49am

total devastation


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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:51am

levelled

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:52am

Flattened

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:54am

possible garage


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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:55am

clearing the mess

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:57am

inspecting the damage.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 1:58am

bombed

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 2:00am

Thats it for now guys.enjoy.
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 6:23am

Great stuff dava,, dragons teeth ( wirral coastal defences)
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 7:48am

Many thanks dava. A great collection. The work of the Bomb Disposal Units is often overlooked. Not a job for those of a nervous disposition!

Looking forward to more photo's !
Posted By: Mark

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 8:29am

wow excellent pictures thanks for sharing smile

Ive just Rated this topic 5 stars smile
Posted By: dingle

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 8:30am

Great photos Dava. I remember my mum telling me about when Christ Church Claughton on Borough Rd got bombed, the house next door to us fell down. We lived right opposite the school, if you are ever travelling down/up Borough Rd when you get to the school look right/left and you will see a big house on the ridge behind the ??service station?? thats were I lived.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 9:56am

Originally Posted by dava2479
German bomber brought down in Bromborough dock.


This was a Junckers 88. It was put on display outside the Oval sports ground; I remember going to see it.
Great collection of pics. Thanks.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 10:00am

Any chance of a larger version of the German bombing targets?
Cheers, Chris
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 4:18pm

Junkers 88 used on raids over birkenhead.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 18th Dec 2008 5:25pm

For a Junkers that's been shot down, it looks in good nick ! Bet the RAF were rubbing their hands with glee with that little(?) prize !!

Didn't they have Mirlees engines ??
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 5:50pm

Chris if I can found out how to enlarge those bombing targets I will do so and re-post them.
Posted By: hoseman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 6:24pm

Notice that the RAF have already painted out the German insignia and replacd it with Roundalls and tail markings, meaning they have been test flying it (so they wont get shot down!!) thumbsup
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:06pm

Mindplayer, I will have a lok at that when I`m up there as I only work around the corner from there.Thanks.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:08pm

Bert,( wirral coastal defences) .Thanks for the reminder,hope that pic was what you was looking for.Unfortunatly I only have the 1.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:15pm

Pinzgaur,I totally agree with your view concerning the bomb disposal squad,as many of thier jobs was trial and error with the Germans constantly boobytrapping thier payload.Thus making thier job harder.If you have seen or manage to get hold of "Danger UXB" tv series,this is an accurate account of what they were faced with.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:28pm

Bomb damaged houses,1941

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:34pm

I know the thread is about bombed Birkenhead and I don`t want to go off topic here but I`ve got a few pics of Liverpool as well,I want to put them on so everyone can enjoy them and so they are recorded as well.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:37pm

Flattened warehouses in 1941

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:38pm

collapsed houses at 29 Clarence st.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:39pm

Devastation in the city centre.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:40pm

Bomb damage in Bootle.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:41pm

Overhead railway 1941.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:42pm

An unexploded parachute mine in a garden in Childwall.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:43pm

A parachute mine destroyed Waterloo dock warehouse 20/21 December 1940

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Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:44pm

Yes,I recorded the series when it was shown a while back. Then bought the book! Fascinating.

As you rightly say, it was a cat and mouse game. Fritz made another type of fuse with nasty surprise underneath it, then we had to figure out how to disarm it.

I'm sure we were the same, but the variety of German bomb fuses and the construction of them was fantastic. The SD.2 (Butterfly Bomb) is a work of art.

A lot of the devices to "stop the clock" that we used were "Heath Robinson" in the extreme - but they worked!

A lot of VERY brave B.D. officers lost their lives in the early days. Often unsung heroes.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:44pm

The area around Lord Street and Castle Street was severely damaged. 3/4 May 1941

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:45pm

stanley dock barges 1942.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 9:46pm

kirby munnitions workers

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 10:22pm

Hydraulic tower (four bridges)

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Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 10:42pm

For children to play with.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 10:47pm

air raid sign in seacombe

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 10:49pm

emergency water supply.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 10:50pm

Does anyone recognise where the above pic is taken.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 18th Dec 2008 11:15pm

Ive found 2 more pics of the ju88 that was brought down in Brom dock.
Posted By: hoseman

Bombed Birkenhead - 19th Dec 2008 6:08pm

Bert 1, that pic you have shown of the anti personell mine is the "butterfly Bomb", They are meant to be un-defusable, I have a fragment of the same that was blown up by bomb disposal years ago, the guy had it as a souvenir on his mantle piece!!! He had watched an episode of Danger UXB and they mentioned that it could not be deactivated, so he phoned the bomb desposal, who came round immediatly! The guy had then carried it to the bottom of his garden where the crew said that if it was still on the mantle piece thats where they would have blown it!!!
The fragment id the fuse cover plate, complete with fuse type, type 41, year of manufacture, 1941 and factory marks!! All very clearly stamped into the plate, about the size of a can lid! thumbsup
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 19th Dec 2008 7:54pm

Jeez. One lucky guy there! The Type 41 was designed to go off on impact I think. (Must dig the book out). Another type went off after a set time and a third type armed itself when it hit the deck and then would go off if moved about 2mm (not a lot).

Kids picked them up after a raid. The curious gave them a tap with their foot. Some landed in fields only to give a blundering cow/sheep a bad time!

Recall reading that if anything went tits up when defusing a bomb, you wouldn't know the slightest thing. The train of detonation, the gaine going off and the main charge going pop is far quicker than the fastest nerve transmission in the human body. Not even time to think "Oh sh*t" !! Maybe just as well.

What morbid interests some folk have ???
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 20th Dec 2008 11:20am

Hoseman,thas an interesting story.obviously that guy did not know what potential danger he had sitting on his mantlepiece.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 20th Dec 2008 9:34pm

These are of Boundary Rd in bidston.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 20th Dec 2008 9:37pm

The top 1 is of the rear of the bus depot in Laird St and the bottom 1 is Laird St itself.

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Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 20th Dec 2008 9:38pm

The pics are not of the best quality but still very viewable.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 8:49pm

Just found this. [youtube]nvWBGHbOtLQ[/youtube]
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 8:57pm

Great Find Dava, Very good indeed.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 8:59pm

Bert,did you see the part on the ice in the Mersey.Was it you that was looking for info on the Mersey being frozen?
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 9:09pm

No Dava it was Buddy, though i think it was earlier years
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 9:10pm

Riiiiiight.I know it was 18 something but the vid is showing ice on the river during the 40`s.Just kinda wandering if it happened twice.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 9:15pm

[youtube]bl47M9MQ2hw[/youtube]
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 9:15pm

The above is Wallasey during the war yrs.
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 21st Dec 2008 9:34pm

Another great find well done Dava
Posted By: angie

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Dec 2008 8:48pm

Fascinating photos Dava thanks for posting them.
Posted By: Pete_Robbo

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Dec 2008 8:52pm

cool find dava man clap
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Dec 2008 9:38pm

Thanks guys.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Dec 2008 9:38pm

Hoping to get more pics on soon.
Posted By: SoundLad

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Dec 2008 10:16pm

Dava fantastic find man happy smile
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 27th Dec 2008 4:06pm

Chris,a short while back you asked for me to enlarge the bombing target pics,I have discovered that the archives have got original German lufwaffe bombing maps that where retrieved by a spy.

Locations:

1) Wirral
2) Liverpool
3) Warrington
4) Manchester
5) North Wales

Basically the North West
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 27th Dec 2008 4:07pm

I have had 2 copied but they are too big to scan and post.
Posted By: Doctor_Frick

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 27th Dec 2008 6:19pm

Scan them in small sections ?
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 27th Dec 2008 6:24pm

Scanning and posting,gulp,it took me 4 months to figure out how to post lol,yeah still need to outline the targets first as the originals are in color and the prints I have are in black and white,but will give it a go.
Posted By: Doctor_Frick

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 12:47pm

Dava

If you send scan them and send them to me, i will edit and highlight the targetted areas electronically. It will be much quicker and probably look better as well.

Cheers

Frick
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 1:11pm

Thats great Doc,Mark Kindley offered also to help me out on this.I will take you up on that as I think Mark has enough on his plate with sorting out the forums.Thank you Doc.Will send them through in an hour.
Posted By: Mark

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 2:06pm

If your file ends up being +1mb
e-mail it to me and i can host it and send you the link smile
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 2:08pm

Will do Mark.Cheers bud.Going to make a start on it in a sec.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 2:16pm

Mark maybe you could help me out with 2 other projects mate.I have an 1888 and 1858 map of Birkenhead that I want to post and again they are too big will have to scan them in sections.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 2:31pm

I often find that with big stuff, it's easier to photograph it & then crop it into sections for posting, or simply re-size it down to a size you can post.

Cheers, Chris.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 2:46pm

Now thats an idea,thanks Chris.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 4:21pm

Everything I've posted from Wirral Archives has been done using this method.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 4:34pm

Struggling with it mate.Taken a foto of the bombing target map and you just cant see any detail.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 6:28pm

dava if you have not upload it. when i see you this week i will sort it for ye thumbsup
Posted By: derekdwc

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 9:56pm

RE MAPS OF bIRKENHEAD
In Bhead main library they sell maps 1909
They have all the streets marked on them
I am using one to mark pubs on
Posted By: Doctor_Frick

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 28th Dec 2008 11:36pm

Thats the problem with taking a photo, it further reduces the quality. Prob better to scan something like that to keep the detail. Just post them through to me when you get time and i'll get to work on it.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 9th Feb 2009 10:52pm

Came across this one today,just to add to the collection.
This is a pic of the railings around Birkenhead park being removed for the war effort.It did say on it by cricket pitch,so I`m thing poss Ashville Rd.

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Posted By: woodley

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Feb 2011 12:42am

Hi Bert. I think I remember my mum telling me the last bombing raid over the Wirral was March 1941. Is that correct? Seems a fair bit too early I reckon.

In fact the more I think about it - the more I'm sure it has to be wrong. Bad memory!!
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th Feb 2011 6:28am

Merseyside bombing timeline for you Ruth





August 1940
9th: First bombs dropped on Merseyside at Prenton, Birkenhead. Liverpool’s first casualty of the 'Blitz'.

10th: First bombs dropped on Wallasey.

17th: First bombs dropped on Liverpool. Liverpool Overhead railway damaged.

19th: Walton Gaol bombed killing 22 prisoners.


September 1940
5th: Liverpool's Anglican Cathedral damaged by bomb blast.

6th: Children’s Convalescent Home bombed, Birkenhead.

26th: Heavy raid on docks and warehouses. Argyle Theatre, Birkenhead, seriously damaged.


October 1940
23rd: Merseyside suffers 200th air raid.


November 1940
28th: Heaviest air raids to date; 200 people killed in total as the first land mines dropped on Merseyside. 164 people killed when a shelter underneath the Junior Technical School, Durning Road, collapsed.


December 1940
3rd: 180 people killed in attack on a packed air raid shelter

12th: Merseyside suffers its 300th air raid.

20th: Start of the ‘The ‘Christmas Raids’ with 365 people killed over three nights. 42 people killed in a bomb attack on two air raid shelters; another 42 people killed when railway arches being used as unofficial shelters are hit; 1399 children evacuated out of Liverpool.

21st: 74 people killed in a direct hit on a large air raid shelter.

22nd: End of the ‘Christmas Raids’.


January 1941
Bad flying weather results in just three air raids in the whole month.


February 1941
7th: ‘Western Approaches Command Headquarters transferred to Liverpool from Plymouth.

Only two raids are carried out on Merseyside in February.


March 1941
12-13th: Heavy bombing resumes. Wallasey suffers its heaviest raids as 174 people are killed.

16th: Baby girl found alive under debris in Wallasey, after being trapped for three and a half days.


April 1941
25th: Winston Churchill visits Liverpool to see the city and port.

The Luftwaffe (German air force) limited the raids on Merseyside to just three this month, conserving their forces for the upcoming ‘May Blitz’.


May 1941
1st: Beginning of the ‘The ‘May Blitz’ 1741 people were killed and 114 people seriously injured by the end of the week.

3rd: Worst night of the ‘May Blitz’, including the explosion of the cargo ship Malakand in Huskisson Dock.

7th: Final night of the ‘May Blitz’;

13th: 550 ‘Unknown Warriors of the Battle of Britain’ are buried in a common grave at Anfield Cemetery.

June 1941
1st: Heavy raids on Liverpool docks; East Gladstone Dock is badly damaged.


July 1941
24th: Light air raid on Merseyside.


November 1941
1st: A light air raid is the final attack on Merseyside in 1941.


January 1942
10th: Merseyside’s final bombing raid of the Second World War sees houses in Upper Stanhope Street demolished.


Posted By: georgehayes

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 13th Mar 2011 1:29pm

i have just looked at the photographs of the bombings
i was born in Birkenhead in may 1939 we lived in Salisbury st off
Grange rd during one of the raids we had to go for cover we all
went in the basement of the old ROXY cinema on Charing cross
When the raid was over my mam left the shelter of the roxy with
my brother and sisters and me to be greeted with the site of our
house totaly demolished by a german bomb god only knows what went through my mams head when she saw it
we had nowere to live so we were shipped out to Wales to live
with relations till about 1944 Thank god i was to young to rember what happened i got all the details from me mam
there made of strong stuff BIRKONEONS
Posted By: Lyn123

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 20th Mar 2011 3:17pm

My Mum has told us harrowing things about the bombings.She lived in Bidston with her parents. The 12th March 1941 was her 16th birthday. She told us that after the blitz she walked to a friends house,the destruction all around. One memory stuck in her mind,so awful that even after 50 years it would make her cry.
She had seen a young woman standing by the remains of a house,two little babies lying dead on doors that were makeshift stretchers.The poor woman was screaming and screaming. I think my poor Mum just ran away.God knows how people got on with life,but they did.
My Dad lived in Rock Ferry and he also had a memory that haunted him.He was coming home from the cinema in Bebington. He and a mate were walking home and an air raid started. They ran like the clappers and had got as far as Victoria Park when they saw a car get a direct hit. My Dad saw the man in the car on fire. There was nothing that he or his mate could do so they ran for their lives through the park. I think he was only about 16 himself, but just like my Mum the memory stayed with him .He didn't cry like my Mum did, but he got very upset about it.
Posted By: blackadder

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 12th Apr 2011 8:22pm

My Dad lived in Livingstone Road Rock Ferry at that time- he told me about the day a Messerschmitt 110 strafed the street, which had kids playin in it- luckily no-one was hit, but the sandstone fence posts had large chunks blasted out of them. The same night, most of Well lane was flattened by a parachute mine
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 12th Apr 2011 8:37pm

Thanks to Lynn and Blackadder for sharing these harrowing but amazing insights to the true reality of the scenes of devastation,destruction and personal loss that millions of people around the UK had to bare witness to during that terrible time.
Posted By: cameraman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 12th Apr 2011 8:43pm

My Dad and Grandfather told me about Well Lane. At the bottom of Well Lane on the opposite side to the Fairfield pub the houses are newer than the ones up towards the Police station. Dad said the houses got taken out by a landmine that caused major loss of life as one of the houses had a party going on. Dad said they found a bed in Victoria park with a headless body in it and remembers the fire brigade removing a body from the top of the telephone wires. He also told me that a German plane was brought down and crashed near Grove Road where the Rock Ferry library (circa 1970's)was. All the kids in the area got chased by the police as they tried to steal bits of it,they used to make rings from the windows of the plane.
My friends Dad was an air raid warden down by lairds with his work mate.They stood at the bottom of St Pauls road on the night of the heavy bombing, his mate thought he saw a German parachute dropping from a crashing plane so ran in the direction of the now Rock retail park. My friends Dad said that about a minute later he could see his mate in the distance and a search light swept past the chute to reveal a landmine underneath with about 100 foot left to go. He threw himself on the floor and next thing the landmine went off. They never found anything of his mate.
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 12th Apr 2011 10:47pm

I was told a story myself years back,a friend of my nan who was obv about the same age.She recalls a night of heavy bombing over Merseyside/Wirral (in general) and she told me of a German plane being shot down over Wirral and the pilot (crew member) landed on the gasometer that used to be at the side of the bus depot,wich was situated behind Laird St.He was arrested and no doubt served the rest of the war in a POW camp.Not as harrowing or unfortunate of the previouse events described but a more lighter hearted account never the less.
Posted By: w10694

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 4:17pm

Did Merseyside receive any V1's ?
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 4:40pm

I would think that Merseyside would be too far for a Doodlebug (V1) to fly from the launch sites on the wrong side of the English Channel. Never read or heard of any much further north than the northerly outskirts of London.

Max range of a Doodlebug anyone ???
Posted By: w10694

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 4:54pm

They used air launched ones, as we moved up Europe, they moved north as well. Project "Driver", which was the re-siting of the AA guns for V1's moved north as well, finishing up in the Newcastle area.
Posted By: w10694

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 5:35pm

Sorry, it was Project "Diver".

From mid-September 1944 to mid-January 1944, the ground launched V1's gave way exclusively to air-launched V1's, around 1200 were launched, 638 of them were observed, 331.5 were shot down by AA and 71.5 by fighters.

HAA sites were prepared from the SE up towards Newcastle, on Christmas Eve 40 V1's were aimed at Manchester across the Lincolnshire coast. The very last air launched V1 of the war came down at Hornsey (Yorkshire coast) on the 14th Jan 1945
Posted By: diggingdeeper

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 5:46pm

That's an excellent kill rate by the AA against V1s.
Posted By: hoseman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 5:58pm

Next month is the 70th anniversary of the May blitz, tha start of it all. There will be rememberance services held around the country.
Liverpool is holding services for all the fire crews killed i heared.
I havent a lot of info on this, just what i heared, so if anyone would like to jump in and tell more....!
Back then they were called Fire Police, hence the term "Fire Bobby".
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 6:30pm

I never realised they air-launched V1's. Puts a different aspect on things. Thanks w10694.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 9:14pm

I hadn't realised there were air launched ones either. For a while, one of my stepsons had a house in Northern France, inland from Dieppe. There were several launch ramps preserved there. I've also visited a V2 launch site between Calais & Boulogne & in the same area the V3 site (which was never operational).
Posted By: w10694

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 14th Apr 2011 11:03pm

Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
That's an excellent kill rate by the AA against V1s.


I believe it was helped by very good quality proximity fuses being available.

The air launched ones were often launched at night, to avoid the carrier aircraft being easily identified.
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 15th Apr 2011 8:55am

Most people have heard of the V1 & V2, but fewer have heard of the V3, which was in fact a gun. The site at Mimoyecques is awesome.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/v3.htm
Posted By: w10694

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 15th Apr 2011 10:55am

From BBC Shropshire:

BBC Shropshire

They did not appear to be very accurate. They were however a good fit on the carrier aircraft ( picture from www.museumofflight.org):

[Linked Image]
Posted By: Trearan

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 20th Apr 2011 9:20pm

For anyone who is interested, I will be appearing at Fort Perch Rock museum on Easter Monday from 10am till 4pm with my Luftwaffe bomber pilot collection, including original pilots' clothing and equipment from my very rare collection. I will also bring some of the 1:48 scale models I have, including the one of the Ju88 that crashlanded next to Bromborough Dock in August 1940. You can find out more about the model and the last time I appeared at Fort Perch Rock on http://homepage.ntlworld.com/axisas...%20-%20Bromborough%20Ju88%20incident.htm

Also, my WWII re-enactment group will be appearing in Williamson Square on Sat 30th April, Sun 1st May and Mon 2nd May as part of the event to remember the 70th anniversary of the Liverpool blitz. Read more about this at http://www.wirralnews.co.uk/wirral-...-the-blitz-in-liverpool-100252-28418634/
Posted By: hoseman

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 22nd Apr 2011 3:59pm

See you there, always had an interest in the Luftwaffe as a militeria collector.
Posted By: woodcarver

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 26th Mar 2012 4:23am

Hi Guys, I am a new member , just found the site. I was born in March 1938 and when my father was called up and sent to France before war broke out we moved from Bebington to Willey Street, Rockferry,my nan lived on Ebenezer street.I can remember some of what happened as we moved down south to Surrey after the war and I recall stuff that happened before we moved.
We( my brother was two years older than I )we had a dried milk tin full of shrapnel'.
We had a shelter in the street but no one seemed to use it.
I recall the Victory parties in the street over Germany and Japan and there being a painting at the end of the street with VOJ on it.
If anyone has any info of that time I would be very interested .
My dad, by the way was at Dunkirk ,was rescued ,then sent to Burma and had to walk into india when Rangoon fell, caught cholera ,survived , was sent to Egypt , then back to Burma from where he was demobbed !!
regards, Dave Hewson
Posted By: ranger

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 8th Apr 2012 5:18pm

bombed birkenhead 2 has to be william bernards oxton rd
Posted By: chriskay

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 8th Apr 2012 8:01pm

Originally Posted by ranger
bombed birkenhead 2 has to be william bernards oxton rd


Bernard's certainly, but not Oxton Rd. Haymarket I think.
Posted By: jimbob

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 8th Apr 2012 9:31pm

Your right Chris, it was one of Bernards shops that apart from its frontage was in one of the cellars of the old market as you came down the steps it was on the right hand side as you turned towards Hamington Street.
Posted By: joney

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 5th May 2012 11:12am

The butterfly bomb can be disarmed because I handled one which was used less explosives as a demonstration aid for schools, I think by civil defence
Posted By: joney

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 6th May 2012 10:36am

The first bombs on Prenton. How long has prenton been in Liverpool?.
Posted By: birch_jl

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 10th Sep 2012 3:07pm

Second world war, Tranmere


Description: Willowbank Rd, Tranmere. bombed during the war.
Attached picture Willowbank Rd.jpg
Posted By: dave_g

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 10th Sep 2012 5:41pm

Originally Posted by Dava2479
emergency water supply.
the old hotel vic new brighton,should never of been knocked down!
Posted By: gracie2010

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 10th Sep 2012 8:56pm

thanks for the picture johnsonjl smile no i can't tell either .. i am thinking the house in the background would be one on south road? but thats a guess. i would love to see old pictures of devonshire park, but i can never find any .. so cheers laugh x
Posted By: ColinReid

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 25th Sep 2012 3:00pm

Thanks Bert1.
I was born in 34 Studley Road Wallasey and it was apparently bombed sometime after September 1940 when I was evacuated to Canada. Would it be possible to confirm this with date? Are there any maps of dropped bombs positions for Wallasey?
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 25th Sep 2012 4:27pm

Originally Posted by ColinReid
Thanks Bert1.
I was born in 34 Studley Road Wallasey and it was apparently bombed sometime after September 1940 when I was evacuated to Canada. Would it be possible to confirm this with date? Are there any maps of dropped bombs positions for Wallasey?


Hi Colin and welcome,

If the information you require is available I'm sure someone will put it up if they have it,
the link may be of interest to you, Wallasey and the Blitz

http://www.wirralhistory.net/wallasey.html
Posted By: Dava2479

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 25th Sep 2012 4:57pm

Not been on or posted for a while but it`s great to see this thread still going strong!
Posted By: bigpete

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 11th Oct 2012 1:38pm

Thingwall incredibly, was bombed during WW2.

Looks like it was a jettison job - destroyed a number of 'new' houses on Berwyn Avenue, damaged some on Pensby Road and heavily cratered the later site of Penrhyn Avenue, which was still a Dairy and smallholding.
Posted By: marty99fred

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 11th Oct 2012 3:25pm

Originally Posted by ColinReid
Thanks Bert1.
I was born in 34 Studley Road Wallasey and it was apparently bombed sometime after September 1940 when I was evacuated to Canada. Would it be possible to confirm this with date? Are there any maps of dropped bombs positions for Wallasey?


There's no "official" map showing the positions of bombs dropped on Wallasey during the war, but there is a semi-official one compiled after the war from various sources. This clearly shows that a bomb did hit the bottom end of Studley Road, the indicated site being centred on no. 31 on the opposite side of the road from your house. This was an HE bomb that was apparently dropped during a raid on 1st November 1941.
Posted By: Helles

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 10th Dec 2012 10:53am

Originally Posted by bigpete
Thingwall incredibly, was bombed during WW2.

Looks like it was a jettison job - destroyed a number of 'new' houses on Berwyn Avenue, damaged some on Pensby Road and heavily cratered the later site of Penrhyn Avenue, which was still a Dairy and smallholding.


I remember reading about a German bomber being shot down and one of the crew bailing out and landing somewhere around Landican. He decided that it might be better to be caught without his pistol so chucked it away on his descent. Wonder if it is still lying in the ground somewhere or did someone find it?
Posted By: toffeehater

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 10th Dec 2012 1:06pm

is there a map showing bomb damage for Tranmere - Well Lane/Old Chester Rd area?
Posted By: marty99fred

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 10th Dec 2012 10:28pm

Yes, Wirral Archives have a map that covers locations of bomb impacts out as far as Tranmere.
Posted By: toffeehater

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 11th Dec 2012 9:19am

Cheers for that
Have dropped them an email to arrange a visit
My parents house was destroyed in Rosedale Rd and apparently some relatives were killed in the Well Lane strike
Posted By: bigpete

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 16th Sep 2013 2:26pm

Originally Posted by w10694
Sorry, it was Project "Diver".
From mid-September 1944 to mid-January 1944, the ground launched V1's gave way exclusively to air-launched V1's, around 1200 were launched, 638 of them were observed, 331.5 were shot down by AA and 71.5 by fighters.


The Germans were the leaders in air-launched missiles - especially anti-ship ones such as the Hs293 'Fritz' - which was capable of sinking a battleship - the Italian 'Roma' was sunk by one as it tried to join Allied forces.
Posted By: DeanoBirko

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 16th Sep 2013 3:36pm

Originally Posted by johnsonjl
Second world war, Tranmere


Wow, I used to live in Willowbank Road. I think I know where it landed too. The houses are mostly large 4 floored buildings, except for the top of Clarence Road, where there are a couple of bungalows and an electricity substation. I think that is where that picture is taken.

Here, I think.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=clarence+road+birkenhead&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x487b27124f4bcba5:0xa7a11acbf1cab1ca,Clarence+Rd,+Birkenhead&gl=uk&ei=DiY3UpvkJ6Ss7Qb_z4CIBg&ved=0CC0Q8gEwAA
Posted By: past_resident

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 12th Feb 2014 3:42pm

Regarding Willow bank Rd / Clarence Rd.
I was brought up in Westbank Rd. I always believed that there had been a school in this area and the ground we playedon was red shale which I believe had been tennis courts for the school.
Anyone have further information?
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 12th Feb 2014 4:21pm

Originally Posted by past_resident
Regarding Willow bank Rd / Clarence Rd.
I was brought up in Westbank Rd. I always believed that there had been a school in this area and the ground we playedon was red shale which I believe had been tennis courts for the school.
Anyone have further information?


Higher Tranmere High School for Girls
Was it bombed?



Attached picture clar.JPG
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 12th Feb 2014 4:39pm

In answer to my own question, yes it was.

Attached picture hths.JPG
Posted By: mikeeb

Re: Bombed Birkenhead 2 - 2nd Jun 2020 6:05pm

Originally Posted by Dava2479
Chris,a short while back you asked for me to enlarge the bombing target pics,I have discovered that the archives have got original German lufwaffe bombing maps that where retrieved by a spy.

Locations:

1) Wirral
2) Liverpool
3) Warrington
4) Manchester
5) North Wales

Basically the North West

I have had 2 copied but they are too big to scan and post.


I know this is old but did anyone manage upload these?
Mark and Dr Frick offered to do it for him.
The thread dried up in 2009 before it started again in 2011, but then there was no mention of it again.
Posted By: mikeeb

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 8th Jun 2020 11:52am

Map with bombed damage.
Admittedly it is hard to differentiate between bombed out or slum clearance.

Attached picture State of repair map.jpg
Posted By: granny

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 8th Jun 2020 8:56pm


Includes some on Wirral

Posted By: mikeeb

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 9th Jun 2020 12:44pm

Very interesting Granny, especially that decoy of Garston docks on Burton Marsh. I knew they had decoy sights but not on that scale.
Posted By: dingle

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 11th Jun 2020 1:38am

One photo missing here is the bombing of Brattan Rd alongside Christ Church Claughton. Which I believe was caused by a doodlebug(according to my mum.)
Posted By: bert1

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 11th Jun 2020 5:53am

Originally Posted by dingle
One photo missing here is the bombing of Brattan Rd alongside Christ Church Claughton. Which I believe was caused by a doodlebug(according to my mum.)


Couldn't have been, Doodlebugs were c1944, Brattan Rd was 1941.

The Doodlebug had a range of about 150 miles, though I remember reading on here they had Air Launched from below a plane, still well after 1941.
Posted By: diggingdeeper

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 11th Jun 2020 6:42am

I've heard that doodlebug story as well, it was probably a whistling bomb that was designed to instil more fear and demoralisation in the population. Most bombs naturally whistle but the Germans made alterations to enhance the effect.

Wirral was covered in decoy sites Meols, Thurstaston, Hoylake, Brimstage as well as Burton Marsh. The control bunkers are still extant except for Brimstage.
Posted By: joney

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 11th Jun 2020 7:39am

I believe there was a decoy site on Bidston moss, at the end of the war german prisoners were used to fill in bomb craters there and we used to pester them for badges.which we found could be obtained for a cigarette.
Posted By: mikeeb

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 11th Jun 2020 10:34am

Doodle bug post on this thread, 1944, as you state bert. Apparently 'Project Diver'
https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums...0/re-bombed-birkenhead-2.html#Post502380

Originally Posted by joney
I believe there was a decoy site on Bidston moss, at the end of the war german prisoners were used to fill in bomb craters there and we used to pester them for badges.which we found could be obtained for a cigarette.

Do you still have any of the badges joney? Would love to see them. wink
Posted By: joney

Re: Bombed Birkenhead - 13th Jun 2020 8:32am

Sad to say when I became an adult I gave them away to a young nephew who I have now lost touch with, I now regret it.
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