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Dont think it was a matter of them having to search the bin granny,I doubt theybother to do that, they must have just seen it near the top because they dont tip them up till they get into the lorry. I doubt it was a case of not being able to reach down into a half filled bin if its a family ,so perhaps a bit of lack of the obvious action, on both sides. It wasnt a matter of polluting a recycling receptable, the grey bin is the default bin for rubbish.

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Ouch! granny no prisoners , no they dont search the bins they just lift the lids up and look in, so it suggests that the pizza box was on the top, it just annoys me that people are so critical of someone doing a job, Ste has made comments quote: they are not "proper binmen", lazy, make them earn their money, were does all that venom come from toward another? or is it jealousy? question for today how do you define a proper binman? is he born or was he trained from a very young age somewhat like a ninja to be a "proper binman."

PS Some councils do have women refuse collectors and roadsweepers.

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Good afternoon Granny, please don't worry yourself about me being attacked. Think Healey, Howe and dead sheep.

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Oi! who are you calling a dead sheep Lud ! Howe could you! handbag

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Sorry Venice I can't respond,too busy looking up necrozoomorphed smile

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Originally Posted by venice
Dont think it was a matter of them having to search the bin granny,I doubt theybother to do that,


Venice, my point was that should they do so, they would find a whole lot more with food residue that would not pass the 'rules'.

Only a couple of weeks ago, I asked about which bin polystyrene should go into. Yes, I'd put it in the green bin, as was correct, but the bin men didn't empty the bin , still don't know why.

Is dog excrement ok to go in the green bin ? That's not mentioned anywhere. Other towns have bins provided especially for dogs , but when I tackled this council about it, a number of years ago, they said it was too expensive to put into place and to operate. So , what's the difference if it goes into green bins , or the bin by the bus stop ? That must just mean a certain amount of non-degradable plastic bags will be going into landfill.(unless they are all degradable now)

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Originally Posted by Dilly
Sorry Venice I can't respond,too busy looking up necrozoomorphed smile


Dilly, I think we're being insulted , dont worry about the finer points, just scowl hard at Lud if he looks at you . Do your best. I have to go out now , so Ill pick up any wool or chops remnants when I get back later . grin

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Oh Lud you've done it again , upset someone! I suspect you're giggling away at your keyboard and thinking hard , what can I throw in the mix now. Think your sympathy is wasted on Lud Granny, he's well able to defend himself.

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Items allowed in your grey bin
cans (drink/food)
card
cardboard boxes
cardboard packaging
catalogues
cereal boxes
corrugated card
cosmetic bottles (glass/plastic)
egg boxes (card)
envelopes (remove plastic window)
fabric conditioner bottles
glass bottles/jars
greeting cards
junk mail
magazines
medicine bottles plastic/glass (empty)
metal jar lids
newspapers
paper
pizza boxes (clean/not greasy)
plastic bottle tops
plastic bottles (including milk)
shampoo/shower gel bottles
telephone directories/Yellow Pages
toilet roll tubes
wallpaper (unused)
washing powder boxes
wrapping paper (not foil)
Bleach bottles
Cleaning bottles
Soap/toothpaste boxes

Download a printable list of what goes in which bin

I have got 2 medium sized household bins in the utility room.
one for recycling and one for food waste etc,
It does make life easier when taking it to empty in your wheelie bins.

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Originally Posted by cools
Oh Lud you've done it again , upset someone! I suspect you're giggling away at your keyboard and thinking hard , what can I throw in the mix now. Think your sympathy is wasted on Lud Granny, he's well able to defend himself.


Nah, As granny said its a boring bleak Saturday, Lud will know that Im only playing laugh

but no-one wanted toplayno

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Originally Posted by casper
it just annoys me that people are so critical of someone doing a job, Ste has made comments quote: they are not "proper binmen", lazy, make them earn their money, were does all that venom come from toward another? or is it jealousy? question for today how do you define a proper binman? is he born or was he trained from a very young age somewhat like a ninja to be a "proper binman."


Oh ignore my illiteracy, I was merely being lazy in my response.
Hardly rocket science though is it?
The original bin men where hard workers, they didn't just have to pull a cart on wheels and pop it on the back of a machine which then emptied the bins for them.
They didn't refuse to take anything, they just took it.
Jealousy? One has to wonder what goes through another's mind to come out with such drivel.
*shakes head*


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Its not as easy as it looks, the handle and wheels are at the wrong end for the binman. Try manoeuvring a full bin from the wrong end wink


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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Its not as easy as it looks, the handle and wheels are at the wrong end for the binman. Try manoeuvring a full bin from the wrong end wink

You of all people should know I handle these bins everyday at work and they are full of a lot more than 'household items and cardboard'.

We also don't have a machine to haul them onto the truck for us.

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If your on an early bin collection and put bin out night before it can be sods law specially if your street is a suitable distance from the local chippy. Often find things put in my by "passers by".
I make sure I bury anything questionable (often the wrong type of plastic)underneath things. Never quite understood No broken glass because I don't think the bin wagon and machinery at the tip are that gentle with jam jars etc.

Think council is clamping down a bit--was at clatterbridge tip and got grilled by new inspector (think he was trying to impress a trainee girl). Asking if I had removed the seats from my car (7 seater) ( I permanently have 2 taken out and flatten the others when needed) Quizzed me if the rubbish was mine --I didn't lie --it was the guys in the car behind me. I was helping him empty his late mothers house--free of charge of course wink. At Bidston tip earlier they were "inspecting papers" . If they came up with a more sensible way I am sure most people wouldn't begrudge just paying a nominal fee per visit.

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Ste, so what you are saying because the method of collecting and emptying bins has progressed along with instructions from their employers and the council not to take various things have been put into place, some of it no doubt to comply with HASWA,this now classifies them as lazy because they dont have to carry or drag metal bins? I cant for the life of me see how you can connect an improved modernised cleaner refuse collection system with being lazy, but the comment you made about putting extra bins out quote "to make them work for their money" signifies that you have a downer on binmen, thats why I put jealousy, it may not be rocket science but it is certainly a dirty thankless job out in all weathers, good luck to them.

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