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#999149 - 25th Jan 2016 10:36am Wristbands
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Campaigners on behalf of asylum seekers say the use of coloured wristbands to enable them to get free meals is degrading,if you go on an all inclusive holiday you will be issued with a wristband or a photographed ID card, I have been on these type of holidays were both systems have been used for ID purposes, if you use the swimming baths you are given a wristband which is most probably the simplest and cheapest form and can be re issued, if we were to give asylum seekers ID cards apart from the cost this would also be frowned on as a human rights issue, it just appears to me that at every attempt to help there appears to be problems, red coloured front doors is another one, apparently all the properties run by this company have red doors, not just the ones that house asylum seekers, it just appears that certain parties are looking for problems that dont really exist, this in turn backfires on those seeking asylum as being ungrateful and getting preferential treatment.


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#999158 - 25th Jan 2016 12:54pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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I agree with you Casper . It seems the same in lots of things which need to improve. Theres always the people who generally mean well, but are the worst enemy to any cause, by demanding an 'ideal' solution , which usually means far less gets achieved .

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#999160 - 25th Jan 2016 1:04pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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I thought the same on both issues.

Next we will have to provide them with special prayer mats because the UK's soil is unclean.

I've known people that have had bones broken by their rescuers, do they moan? Did they heck, they thanked their rescuers.
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#999171 - 25th Jan 2016 3:08pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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There will always be a percentage of the population who will make an issue out of anything and create a negative 'spin'. It probably isn't the asylum seekers themselves who have an issue with it but those 'campaigners' who have an agenda.

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#999184 - 25th Jan 2016 5:05pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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perhaps they can have a yellow star to sew on their coat instead of a coloured wrist band or how about the number 666 on their foreheads. Think if I was hungry I wouldn't give a monkeys about having a wrist band.

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#999191 - 25th Jan 2016 6:12pm Re: Wristbands [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Next we will have to provide them with special prayer mats because the UK's soil is unclean.



Many a true word said in jest. Saudi Arabia apparently provide the doctrine for the British Muslims in the mosques, and we know how brutal their regime is. They don't take asylum seekers; it is serious offence to smuggle a bible into Saudi Arabia, but they offer to build 200 mosques for Germany. So they see it a long term goal by the looks of things . They also own half of London including our hotels , so yes I think you could be right in the not too distant future.

I tend to agree with Uffda and when certain groups come up with opposition, to a clearly helpful project , it then makes many others fearful of being classed as racist . I wish some of these 'do gooders' could be a little more open minded towards resolving issues instead of making more. If they can't put any better ideas forward, then shut the f up! (or do a Baby)
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#999232 - 25th Jan 2016 10:30pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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The problem is that wristbands identify them as targets for your cretinous UKIP supporter. Abuse of immigrants is not a myth.

The difference between wearing a wrist band in an amusement park is that you are unlikely to be abused because of it.

The UK's response to the migrant crisis has been shameful. If we took in half a million it would be less than 1% of our population would pose no particular problem. That Germany - the country that spawned the Nazis - has welcomed these people in their hundreds of thousands is evidence of how our moral standards have slipped.

We have generously offered to take in 20,000 over five years, or ten a day! You think that's right?


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#999242 - 25th Jan 2016 11:51pm Re: Wristbands [Re: Excoriator]
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Unfortunately, Germany's moral standards are not being so long lived as hoped, and that's what happens when a country is put under pressure. Germany has only taken them for their own purposes and that is because their work force is diminishing. We (the UK) are taking them on a humanitarian basis , which I think is far better, and don't forget the migrants who have been allowed to come here for decades , mainly from our commonwealth countries. So don't knock us too much.
Did anyone see BBC3 tonight about Russia and the treatment of migrants there by the equivalent to the Neo Nazis ?
We are at least civil to migrant and asylum seekers here, which is something to be proud of and do we really want to rock the boat by letting half a million arrive? Maybe some do but maybe they also think that these people should be kept like animals in camps and transit centres. I can't see that being very humanitarian.


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#999243 - 26th Jan 2016 12:01am Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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....and the half a million would increase x 4 at least, when the families and dependents are automatically allowed to follow.
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#999244 - 26th Jan 2016 12:17am Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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Germany increasing its population.
Germany taking over financial control of Europe.
Germany destabilising other European countries financially.
Germany destabilising other European countries socially.

Don't we ever learn? We might as well turn over now to avoid the bloodshed.

Wrist bands will be the least of our worries.
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#999245 - 26th Jan 2016 1:07am Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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Excoriator " The problem is that wristbands identify them as targets for your cretinous UKIP supporter. Abuse of immigrants is not a myth."

Long time since ive been called "cretinous". UKIP is not the BNP.

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#999246 - 26th Jan 2016 1:14am Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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#999274 - 27th Jan 2016 9:07am Re: Wristbands [Re: granny]
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On the other hand you have this going on:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/21/sexual-abuse-yarls-wood-immigration

Inexplicably, Granny didn't mention both sides of the story.

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#999281 - 27th Jan 2016 10:43am Re: Wristbands [Re: Excoriator]
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On the other hand you have this going on:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/21/sexual-abuse-yarls-wood-immigration

Inexplicably, Granny didn't mention both sides of the story.


So you obviously think that what goes on in Germany and other Scandinavian countries is admissible, because Yarls Wood counteracts the problem ?

Inexplicably, I also understand that you must think it's ok to bring more migrants to be placed in immigration camps and subjected to such immoral conduct, and you would be happy to accept the possibility ,on behalf of your daughter, wife , mother or son, being molested or sexually assaulted on the grounds of equalisation ?

Two negatives never made a positive.
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#999282 - 27th Jan 2016 12:05pm Re: Wristbands [Re: casper]
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