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This Christmas I have received a lovely, second hand, original painting depicting various historical places and facts of Parkgate.

One which takes my interest is the name NELSON which laid in black pebbles on the pavement outside a building on Station Road. It was contributed by Albin Burt ,the father of Nelson Burt who died in a shipwreck off the Wirral coast in 1822.
Looking up Albin Burt, there is an artist named Albin Roberts Burt 1783 - 1842, who has some miniature portraits displayed in the National Portrait Gallery. Also another painting was sold by Bonhams . Description given as follows:

Albin Roberts Burt (British, 1783-1842)

The artist's wife, Sarah Burt (née Jones), wearing white dress, matching turban and red cloak, holding her son Nelson Burt, wearing white dress and bonnet, her daughter Emma Hamilton Burt to her left, wearing brown dress.
Signed on the reverse, inscribed and dated Mrs Burt - and her/ two children - Emma 2 years/ and Nelson - 6 month old/ Painted by AR Burt/ Birmingham May 1814, gilt-mounted papier-mâché frame, the hanger depicting a palette surrounded by flowers and bearing the legend A.R./ BURT/ MINIATURE/ PAINTER, the reverse with incomplete trade label.
Rectangular, 63mm (2 1/2in) high

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Albin Roberts Burt's brother Henry Frederick was, according to family legend, Secretary to Admiral Lord Nelson. Albin was certainly acquainted with Nelson through Sir William Hamilton and his mother had known Emma, Lady Hamilton as a girl in Wales. Burt married Sarah Jones in 1810 and two of their eight children, as depicted here, were named in honour of the famous lovers. Nelson Burt died in a shipwreck off the Wirral coast in 1822, a memorial to him in the form of his name spelt out in black pebbles on the footpath to the house can be found at 15 Station Road, Parkgate, Merseyside. Emma Hamilton Burt was born 15 March 1812 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, she married John William White on 25 May 1836

[img]https://images1.bonhams.com/image?s...dth=640&height=480&autosizefit=1[/img]

Just thought it might be of interest to some. Wirral connections and all that smile

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After doing a little more hunting, I have found this information from someone doing their family History.

So we have a link as to why Albin Roberts Burt was in Parkgate.


Albin married Sarah Jones (1785- 1854) on 31 December 1810 in Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England. They settled in Chester, where Albin Burt travelled about the country, working in Bath and Worcester (1812), Birmingham and Warwick (1814), Southampton (1814). Oxford (1817), and at intervals, London, (1805, 1814, 1820, 1830). Chester (ca. 1810-1830), Reading (1832). Painting people of all classes from a Lord down to a “boots”, apparently equally at home with all (Unwins, 16) from 1830 he lived at Reading, though he moved briefly to Southampton in 1834.
A Versatile artist with an eye for detail, Burt executed shell and stone cameos, cabinet portraits in oil, silhouettes, and miniatures on card, ivory, and copper in oil or watercolour; and engravings.

He exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1807 and 1830. Distinguished sitters included Mary Mitford and the poet and hymn writer Edward Caswell. An engraving after John Jackson of Lord Nelson, with whom he was acquainted through Sir William Hamilton, is held in the National Maritime Museum, London.

Albin used the small cottage 15 Station Road, Parkgate, Merseyside as a holiday home or weekend home often visiting with his family where they would spend time seabathing in the fashionable resort. In 1822 Albin and his son Nelson were returning home from a job in Liverpool on board the paddle steamer “The Prince Regent”. Before they could reach the docks at Ellesemere Port the vessel was caught in a terrible storm, during which nine people were swept overboard; sadly Nelson was one of them. His body was never recovered and the family mourned for many years. After returning to Parkgate, Albin collected some black pebbles from the beach and placed them outside the front door of his cottage as a memorial. In 1923 they were set in concrete to preserve them, where they still sit today


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Albin Roberts Burt had 2 sons named Hamilton,
Hamilton Burt, 1813-1822 and 1825-1843.

The Morning Post, December 14, 1822

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Sorry, above should read, sons, Nelson Burt


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What a harrowing report of a tragedy.

So, little Nelson Burt will continue to be remembered along with the shipwreck, due to the stones his father placed outside a little cottage almost 200 yrs ago. How touching.

Thanks Bert.


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In 1800 it has been described as : Busy, Fashionable, Coach Centre, Theatre, 15 Hotels , Brilliance, Gaiety, Dancing and Bathing. A Great Port.

I wonder which or where the 15 Hotels might have been ?


Another piece of information, which is new to me but might not be to others, if so, please be patient with the old dear. smile

Ryley is mentioned. The death of Ryley in 1837. Wondering who this person could be, it turns out that he was an actor and author. William Samuel Ryley 1759 to 1837. He seemed to have led a bit of a chequered life, and at one point ended up in Chester Castle ,which can be read about on the link. His home stood on the site until 1925, that White Cottage occupied/occupies.

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WILLIAM RYLEY - AUTOGRAPH NOTE SIGNED 06/18/1830 - DOCUMENT 73187


SAMUEL WILLIAM RYLEY
The English actor and author signs page from his book The Itinerant in black ink
Autograph note signed: "Sam - Will - Ryley" in black ink. 4x3½ clipped (from book) paper affixed to 4x6¼ etching of Ryley. Parkgate, Cheshire, England. June 18, 1830. In full: "Mr. Roughsedge, with the best wishes, and most grateful acknowledgments from the author". Samuel William Ryley (1759-1837) was a British actor and author, best known for his series The Itinerant, or Memoirs of an Actor which was first published in 1808. Ryley led the melancholy life of a struggling actor, appearing successfully all over England yet never able to catch up on his mountainous debts. His books were popular yet not enough, and his plays "The Old Soldier" and "The Irish Girl" were unsuccessful. Irregularly cut. Toned. Slightly soiled. Creased throughout. Ink stains throughout. Adhesive residue in top margin. Otherwise, fine condition.

More on his life...

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ryley,_Samuel_William_(DNB00)

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I slightly suspect the "15" hotels included Neston Town centre area as Parkgate was renowned for not having many hotels and the passengers were coached in from as far away as Chester.

On the other hand including Neston Town centre might bring the figure above 15.


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Yes, it's hard to think there may have been 15, but......

In 1859, The Ship Inn belonged to the Parkgate Hotel Company, which rebuilt and enlarged it making all three houses into one.



So maybe there were more lodging houses or inns, as opposed to Hotels as we know them.

Boathouse (also know as the Beer House/ Ferry House and later Pengwern Arms), Chester Arms Hotel(and hostelry), Old Post Office Hotel, Red Lion, The Ship, (which could have been 3 separate lodgings.) The George Inn (which became Mostyn Arms Hotel in 1819)

That could be 8 and there may have been some on Leighton Road . What was the Hotel called at the bottom of Boathouse Lane , it closed a few years ago ? Maybe there was something there in the 1800's.

Looking at the parade from this photo, there could well have been 15 hotels or places to stay.

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You are correct, the 1857 Post Ofice Directory says

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This place consists mostly of lodging-houses, which present a long- and irregular range, forming one side of a street facing the river Dee


and has the following listed

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Birch Mary (Mrs.), lodging house
Coulter Margaret (Miss), lodging house
Crowder Sarah (Miss), lodging house
Dunbar Elizbth. (Mrs.), lodging house
Ellis Margaret (Mrs.), Ship
Evans Maurice, Sawyers' Arms
Johnson Thomas, Pengwern Arms
Meacock Ellen (Mrs.), lodging house
Mortimer AVilliam AVilliams, Chester Arms hotel
Railton Joseph, lodging house
Reece Richard, lodging house
Roberts Ann (Miss), Iodging house
Rothwell Wm. fariner & lodging house
Scott Harriett (Mrs.), lodging house
Wood Lee, Red Lion


Which is exactly 15!


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Originally Posted by granny
In 1800 it has been described as : Busy, Fashionable, Coach Centre, Theatre, 15 Hotels , Brilliance, Gaiety, Dancing and Bathing. A Great Port.

I wonder which or where the 15 Hotels might have been ?




1826, Directory

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1789, Directory,

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One thing I'm trying to understand is why there were so many hotels and lodgings in 1857.

By 1857 the ships had stopped arriving at Parkgate and even the previous exemplary sands and bathing had been badly effected by the silting.

The coal mines had all but closed (although they started up again ten years later).

There must have been another attraction?


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Neston Colliery was still operating until 1928.

I wonder if Parkgate could have still been a leisure resort, as the railway linked between Hooton and West Kirby. People used to come from Liverpool to stay for holidays on Wirral. 'Taking the Air' as it used to be called. Maybe Parkgate was a favourite of Liverpool and Chester .

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ferry service operated from the inn to Bagilt and Flint from about 1740, a steamer, the Ancient Britain was introduced in 1817 and this operated until 1864. The owner of the inn also ran a Stage Coach service to Rock Ferry pier, so passengers could travel from Wales to Liverpool, using the two ferries and the stage coach."



The donkey stand must have been an attraction where the children could ride them, and up until 1862 was run by my gt.gt. grandfather who was also proprietor of the Chester Arms which opened in the early 1850's. He died in 1862.

I think Balcony House or The Assembly Rooms used to have entertainment and a billiards room for the gents, but not sure on dates.

There must have been a large venue in 1742 for Handel's first performance of Messiah. Maybe that was in the Assembly Rooms. There was also mention a theatre somewhere , maybe that was within a building for multiple uses.

The silting of the Dee has been accelerated by the deliberate introduction of the invasive colonising grass Spartina anglica in Connah's Quay in 1928, resulting in the growth of extensive marshlands.....look what happened. Unfortunately the grasses are hindrance to wading birds as they cannot feed through it.

We are so lucky having somewhere so close to us that has so much History.

Charles Kingsley stayed with Mr Grenfell in Parkgate and I assume that is when he wrote

'The Sands of Dee'

"O Mary, go and call the cattle home,
And call the cattle home,
And call the cattle home
Across the sands of Dee";
The western wind was wild and dank with foam,
And all alone went she.

The western tide crept up along the sand,
And o'er and o'er the sand,
And round and round the sand,
As far as eye could see.
The rolling mist came down and hid the land:
And never home came she.

"Oh! is it weed, or fish, or floating hair--
A tress of golden hair,
A drowned maiden's hair
Above the nets at sea?
Was never salmon yet that shone so fair
Among the stakes on Dee."

They rowed her in across the rolling foam,
The cruel crawling foam,
The cruel hungry foam,
To her grave beside the sea:
But still the boatmen hear her call the cattle home
Across the sands of Dee.

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The colliery had a lull period in the mid-1800's and restarted in 1870.

I'm a little confused how the steam ferry could operate until 1864, I think most ships stopped around 1800, I can only guess they were using the colliery quay which presumably was dredged, the parade quayside at Parkgate would only be usable at the highest tides or low draft boats.

The silting was also aggravated by the dredgings from the Mersey being dumped at the mouth of the Dee.


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Maybe it was a smugglers boat. A bit like the passage from Asia to Europe atm. If the Dee had silted up firstly stopping the boats going to Ireland, there may have been a crossing still running for a period.

Not much good on silting up of rivers, so will have to hand that one over. smile

I enjoyed the great little read of Bert's 1789 Directory.

a correction to my previous post. Not that it matters, but it was my 3 x grt. grandfather. Just didn't want anyone thinking I'm older than needs be. Thank you smile

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