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It is like when I did my degree at Liverpool Uni... I didn't actually learn everything until I completed the degree and not when or before I started.
I'm glad to know that you learned everything about your degree subject.
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One last post as I don't want to offend anyone. That's the point its peoples own free will  Anyone who does want to find out more information, take the mickey or even come up with even more conspiracy theories then there is a YouTube video: Feel free to watch or ignore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da0FZyLktLg What's It All About? – what it means to be a Freemason NB: If anyone is serious interested then please PM me for more information, otherwise I will stop replying.
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Masonry is a personal choice, and like life you can either try to better yourself through knowledge and understanding or decide to take the easier route of not challenging yourself. I am proud to be a member of a supportive and growing lodge.
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Good Luck but you won't convince me of it's 'pure' intentions. Too may people like Jimmy Savile, Greville Janner, Cyril Smith, Paul Gadd, Max Clifford, Rolf Harris, Peter Sutcliffe and they are all Fremasons !
Anyway, you obviously are happy with your connections to the Society that protects it's members.
Why does this remind me of the Freemasons ? Fabulous piece of furniture
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It depends on how the "brothers" use their membership. I know of many instances of it being used for promotion prospects, circumnavigation of the law (albeit for a minor offence) and self aggrandizement. I packed in going to a similar "brotherhood" after 30 years because of the way it was being used. You can't bury your head in the sand and only see the noble stuff, there are murky goings on as well. 
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In response to your last post Granny, simple really. You probably couldn't afford either.
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In response to your last post Granny, simple really. You probably couldn't afford either.
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In response to your post Tankrat......would I wish to !
Very sorry to know of your ill health , but I hope you feel well enough to fill your days with beauty and love.
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Good Luck but you won't convince me of it's 'pure' intentions. Too may people like Jimmy Savile, Greville Janner, Cyril Smith, Paul Gadd, Max Clifford, Rolf Harris, Peter Sutcliffe and they are all Fremasons !
Ha ! Greville Janner got off again, due to ill health. He wasn't ill the first time around. Protectionism and delay tactics at the extreme. Absolutely appalling .  http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/16/lord-janner-no-trial-abuse-claims
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I have never understood why he was never charged with the offences in 1991. Now his council play the 'lack of memory' get out of jail card. I bet his victims wish they were able to forget. A vile man protected by vile and corrupt hierarchy.
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I have never understood why he was never charged with the offences in 1991. Now his council play the 'lack of memory' get out of jail card. I bet his victims wish they were able to forget. A vile man protected by vile and corrupt hierarchy. Spot on !!
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"He was previously investigated in the early 1990s but detectives on the case were told by senior officers that they must not arrest the MP or search his property." So I presume these senior officers are being investigated!
There's a real danger that the left will drag Britain back to the 1970s, with secure well-paid jobs, ample housing, properly-funded NHS and social care, free tuition, student grants, final salary pensions, affordable rail fares and fabulous films and music. David Osland 2025 We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn https://ddue.uk
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Should be more investigated. Only this month has he been suspended from the Labour Party, over the allegations of child abuse.
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I'm not sure how right you are DD, the senior officers presented files to the CPS on three other occasions and it was the CPS that said there was insufficient proof to procede. The current CPS now states that the earlier cases had been dealt with wrongly and are requesting an investigation.
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