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Family Search Merchant Navy #852624
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With the link below, can anybody tell me how I can find out more, if there is any ?

The chap I am looking for, disappeared around 1856/7, his family of 4 children lived in Tranmere, although he was born in Kent. His name has been spelt incorrectly at times between Crafter and Crofter. This one is Crofter. It may not be the right person, but can't find any more bits to link or unlink.
This period 1853 to 1856 was the period of the Crimea War. Can't work out where to go next, as keep getting the same info.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCQG-DK2

Thank you for any help to direct me.


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Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: granny] #852632
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Have you tried asking for help on here? http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php

They are very good and friendly.

Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: Helles] #852638
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No, I haven't. Good idea, Thanks Helles.

I see the link didn't work

but here's another attempt.

Richard Crofter
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941

birth: 1826 Kent
military service: United Kingdom




Richard Crofter, "United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"




Name: Richard Crofter
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1853-1857
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Kent
Birth Year: 1826
GS Film number: 1562743
Digital Folder Number: 004650253



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Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: granny] #852656
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1851 England Census about Richard Crafter
Name: Richard Crafter
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Crafter
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bexley, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Wirral
Sub-registration District: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 2c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 168
Piece: 2175
Folio: 805
Page Number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Crafter 25
Sarah Crafter 25
Eliza Catherine Crafter Under 9
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Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: Cranky] #852657
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Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Richard Crafter
Name: Richard Crafter
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1849
Parish: Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: Sarah Eleanor Edwards
Father's Name: Richard Crafter
Spouse Father's Name: Samuel Edwards
Reference Number: 283 NIC/3/39

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You probably know the above info from ancestry, but just in case...

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1861 England Census about Sarah E Crafter
Name: Sarah E Crafter
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Tarvin, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Bebington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Tranmere
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration District: Birkenhead
Sub-registration District: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
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Household Schedule Number: 178
Piece: 2645
Folio: 119
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah E Crafter 30
Eliza C Crafter 10
Richard A Crafter 8
Herbert E Crafter 6
Annie E Crafter 4
Mary Radcliffe 35

Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: granny] #852661
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In 1871 Sarah is a servant in Oxton and the youngest Crafter is living with cousins Andrew and Ann Glynn in Tranmere.

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In 1881 Sarah is a boarder at 17 Peel Street and her marital status is listed as widower. Give me a shout if I can look up anything else for you :-)

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Cranky, thank you very much. You have the correct family and her husband Richard did not appear on 1861 census or indeed any subsequent one. That is the mystery and what I have been trying to find out.

Family tales say that he and his partner in work, (whose wife was Mary Radcliffe and on one of your lists), took off one morning by carriage to go to work and never returned. Nobody knew really what the truth was, and all the family members that may have known are gone now.

Sarah also lived in Queens Building, Queen Street, Tranmere in 1861 according to what I saw, but I thought Queens buildings was by Laird street, unless there was another one.

Sarah at one time was a teacher at a Girls School on Old Chester Road, and also listed as a nurse at another time.

all great fun, but bloody annoying.

Thanks for all that. Any chance you can find anything out on Richard and Crimean War records? Being cheeky now laugh


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Re: Family Search Merchant Navy [Re: granny] #852671
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Baptism

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That's the one Bert. His father Richard came here with his family in 1840's for whatever reason and was proprietor at the Derby Arms Pub ,Rock Ferry for a number of years and later Chester Arms, Parkgate. He died in 1862.


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Granny,

The Merchant seamen's records are inconclusive as to, if its your man.
However he does declare he's a mariner at Herbert's Baptism.

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Try the main site. http://www.rootschat.com/

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Thanks for the link Helles. I have been looking through and there have been some enquiries in the past about 'Crafter', one of which was from a relation.
The trouble is, there were so many Richards' scattered all over the place, it's hard to pin one down. Some don't have birth dates, some emigrated and back then they could have given false ages and names too, I suppose.
Anyway, I will keep scouting and your link seems the best so far. Thank you.

Bert, thanks for your info. That has been very helpful in pin pointing his occupation. Knew all the details of Herbert's DOB but not daddy's occupation at that date. Probably Richard commanded more attention as we came from the line of his son Richard Andrew,(who had 12 children), rather than Herbert.

Too many Richards' and most are from different branches of the same family,both here and abroad. If we should catch up with the buggar, it will be a bit of an anti climax, as there will not be any more to search for. So although infuriating ,it's an enjoyable pastime.


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