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#602278 - 16th Oct 2011 5:54pm Old Hebron Hall, Liscard
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I know that Hebron Hall on the corner of Liscard Village and Egerton Grove was built in 1924, but Iíve come across some plans which indicate that there was an earlier Hebron Hall in Liscard Crescent which would have been built around 1906. This has dredged up some vague memories from the late 1940s / early 1950s of us kids playing in the gardens of a derelict building in the Crescent which was opposite the side of the Fire Station. I also seem to remember that not long after, the building was demolished and an extension to the Woolworths shop in Liscard Road was built on the land.

Anyone any info? Obviously not of earth-shattering importance but perhaps confirmation that Iím not going completely senile.


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#602364 - 16th Oct 2011 7:46pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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#602373 - 16th Oct 2011 8:00pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: _Ste_]
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Would a comparison between 1901 census and 1911 census help, numbers missing or number jump.
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#602422 - 16th Oct 2011 9:50pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: bert1]
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Nice idea, Bert, but from what I remember that side of Liscard Crescent was mainly loading bays for the shops in Liscard Road.

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#602430 - 16th Oct 2011 9:56pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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There used to be a little chapel there in the 60's, facing the back of Woolworths. I'm not sure which church it was but I had it in my mind that it was Methodist.

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#602455 - 16th Oct 2011 10:28pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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Originally Posted By: nightwalker
Nice idea, Bert, but from what I remember that side of Liscard Crescent was mainly loading bays for the shops in Liscard Road.


I'm sure you've already looked at this link before, but it might help jog a few memories.

http://www.liberator31.co.uk/wallasey/Shopping_In_Liscard/index.html

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#602640 - 17th Oct 2011 9:28am Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: cmw2a]
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Originally Posted By: cmw2a
There used to be a little chapel there in the 60's, facing the back of Woolworths. I'm not sure which church it was but I had it in my mind that it was Methodist.

You may be thinking of Wesley Hall which was at the Liscard Road end of the Crescent, at the back of the Co-op.

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#602649 - 17th Oct 2011 9:39am Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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I've managed to crop a bit off a photo taken about 1953/4 which shows part of Liscard Crescent. From left to right: the wall encloses the yard of the old Co-op. I had completely forgotten about the houses which are probably Liscard Terrace. I can't remember them being occupied - perhaps by then they were being used as storage for the Co-op? Then the back entrance bays to shops in Liscard Road.


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#602968 - 17th Oct 2011 8:27pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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Many thanks to a friend on here Dolly 007 for finding this for me, from 1911 Enumerators book.


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#603028 - 17th Oct 2011 9:49pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: bert1]
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So, it looks like the row of houses next to the hall was Poplar Terrace. I had assumed like nightwalker that it might have been Liscard Terrace.

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#603040 - 17th Oct 2011 10:14pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: Geekus]
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The Chapel at 2 Liscard Cresent, would that be what was mentioned earlier in the thread?
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#603166 - 18th Oct 2011 8:40am Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: bert1]
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Brilliant stuff, Bert and many thanks to Dolly 007. Never thought of using these records before - you can teach an old dog new tricks! A lot to take in as it is nothing like I remember.

Yes, the chapel at no. 2 would have been Wesley Hall, at the corner of Pear Tree Grove.


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#603176 - 18th Oct 2011 9:04am Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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Perhaps you could record your findings NW, i think they would be most welcome.

http://www.genuki.eu/CHS/Church1670.htm
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#603229 - 18th Oct 2011 10:18am Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: bert1]
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Good idea Bert. I've already contacted the Church to see if they've got any info on the old building and to offer them the plans if they're interested.

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#603803 - 19th Oct 2011 12:23pm Re: Old Hebron Hall, Liscard [Re: nightwalker]
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I've been in touch with a friend of mine at Wirral Archives and she's checked the Wallasey Building Plans Register there. There were apparently two plans deposited for the proposed new Hebron Hall in 1905, nos. 4368 and 4445. She managed to locate the original plan, numbered 4368, but the amended plan, numbered 4445, is missing from the Archives collection. Do you not think that your plan would be better returned to where it clearly originally came from - judging by the official Council stamp - at the Archives?

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