WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,031,482
Topics76,020
Members14,008
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs0
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
17 registered members (Bazza55, 2 invisible), 1,458 guests, and214 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
Anyone recognize any of these lovely ladies
by Longnails. 9th Nov 2021 12:10pm
Ed Davey MP Disgraceful!
by Longnails. 8th Nov 2021 11:41am
Boris Johnson Owen Paterson
by Longnails. 4th Nov 2021 1:07pm
Create legal right to see Drs Petition response
by Longnails. 4th Nov 2021 12:48pm
New Wirral History
Elm Grove Wallasey
by TomWM. 8th Nov 2021 3:01pm
Aerial Archaeology Mapping Explorer
by diggingdeeper. 24th Oct 2021 5:18pm
Rivacre Valley Ellesmere Port
by pegsgirl. 20th Apr 2015 7:06pm
Knowledge of old Birkenhead Street.....
by emmski. 19th Mar 2011 8:40pm
holy trinity church.
by cathcart. 1st Jul 2010 7:19am
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Cruise liner Anthem of the Seas
Tram by the Penny Bridge
Topic Replies
Shop Window Personal Ads.
by TheGodSplinter. 27th Nov 2021 7:22pm
Social Care reforms unfair!
by casper. 27th Nov 2021 9:11am
The Toughest
by Longnails. 25th Nov 2021 2:30pm
John Lewis Xmas advert
by Longnails. 20th Nov 2021 12:52pm
Colin pitchfork
by cools. 20th Nov 2021 12:05pm
XMAS IS COMING
by lincle. 18th Nov 2021 8:38pm
Wanted Adult Magazines
by elbmek. 18th Nov 2021 5:50pm
Will your home be safe from sea rising map
by elbmek. 18th Nov 2021 5:47pm
Vauxhall meriva 1.4 VXR rep
by paul110180. 17th Nov 2021 5:44pm
November
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Noise and nuisance issues #514281
6th May 2011 3:07pm
6th May 2011 3:07pm
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
The_Monk Offline OP
Old Hand
The_Monk  Offline OP
Old Hand
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
can anyone give me advise please.
me and my wife live and rent a house privately and are having problems with nuisance neighbours, two in fact who have children.

we first asked the children numerous times to stop making noise outside our house and in the end after about five times of asking they just stared at us like we were aliens.

i then approached one of the mothers and asked f they could ask them to stop making the noise outside our house and all she said was "you wait till the summer if you think its bad now"

not what i wanted to hear.

So i then contacted one of the landlords from one of the houses who belongs to REGENDA and they have told me they cannot do anything and its down to myself and my wife to contact our own landlord.

three days ago i got the police involved and waiting for them to visit the two properties and advise them at the weekend.

can anyone tell me if this s right and it is down to our own landlord to sort out?

Google Ads
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514284
6th May 2011 3:13pm
6th May 2011 3:13pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
StuyMac Offline
Wiki Master
StuyMac  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
I guess it depends if what the childeren are doing could be described as being anti social?

Kids will be kids, and do make noise when they play. Unfortunatly, unless they are making the noise at unsocial times, or are causing damage, or trespassing then I think there may be nothing that can be done frown


What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: StuyMac] #514290
6th May 2011 3:19pm
6th May 2011 3:19pm
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
The_Monk Offline OP
Old Hand
The_Monk  Offline OP
Old Hand
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
Originally Posted by StuyMac
I guess it depends if what the childeren are doing could be described as being anti social?

Kids will be kids, and do make noise when they play. Unfortunatly, unless they are making the noise at unsocial times, or are causing damage, or trespassing then I think there may be nothing that can be done frown


thanks for your reply.
the kids are a nightmare they have broken trees down and done a good job of it as there is not even a root left, they climb all over residents cars screaming outside peoples front door banging there bikes against the sides of peoples house as they know the people will come out.

The mother of one house just doesn't care and she as a girl who must be no more than 4 and she is out in the road in her pajamas at all hours of the day and night and even gone 12 at night. (the police were interested in this info and said social services would be interested)

we have a lot of flowers put in around our road and they kick the heads of them all, its just one thing after another.

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: StuyMac] #514293
6th May 2011 3:20pm
6th May 2011 3:20pm
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 80
birkenhead
C
carole696 Offline
Member
carole696  Offline
Member
C
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 80
birkenhead
all i can say is good luck i had a simular problem with one of my neughbours who i used to be good friends with we had a fall out and things went terribly wrong she was playing loud music all day from 7 in the morning to late at night i reported her to the housing and she recieved a letter nothink more it got so bad i went looking at private houses to move into i didnt want to move but felt i had no choice i had my car window smashed my son got jumped but because we could prove it was to do with her i couldnt do a thing in the end she did move away thank god but i know how you feel it was a nightmare for all of us but it could be a long haul for you kids will be kids an if they are only playing and being noisey what caan you realy do remember you was a child yourself once

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514297
6th May 2011 3:24pm
6th May 2011 3:24pm
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 805
Prenton
M
MrBrightside Offline
Wise One
MrBrightside  Offline
Wise One
M
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 805
Prenton
They sound like utter .... Why do people think that they can just walk all over nice folk. Drives me nuts. Monk i really do eperthasie. I lived next door to alot of people like that. The police cant enforce anything. I lived next door to them for 10 years . totall ... i hope you get it sorted out. The only thing i can say is CCTV cameras to record the anti social behavior and submit it to the police.


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: MrBrightside] #514304
6th May 2011 3:27pm
6th May 2011 3:27pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
StuyMac Offline
Wiki Master
StuyMac  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
Originally Posted by JohnLeatherFix
The only thing i can say is CCTV cameras to record the anti social behavior and submit it to the police.


Agreed, but make sure you comply with all the nancy regualtions regarding CCTV - especially if it overlooks more than just your land. It if doesnt comply, the footage will be useless and disregarded frown

Hope you can get it sorted.


What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514308
6th May 2011 3:29pm
6th May 2011 3:29pm
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 255
Birkenhead
S
Silverback Offline
Addict
Silverback  Offline
Addict
S
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 255
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by The_Monk
can anyone give me advise please.
me and my wife live and rent a house privately and are having problems with nuisance neighbours, two in fact who have children.

we first asked the children numerous times to stop making noise outside our house and in the end after about five times of asking they just stared at us like we were aliens.

i then approached one of the mothers and asked f they could ask them to stop making the noise outside our house and all she said was "you wait till the summer if you think its bad now"

not what i wanted to hear.

So i then contacted one of the landlords from one of the houses who belongs to REGENDA and they have told me they cannot do anything and its down to myself and my wife to contact our own landlord.

three days ago i got the police involved and waiting for them to visit the two properties and advise them at the weekend.

can anyone tell me if this s right and it is down to our own landlord to sort out?




Have a word with your landlord, ask him if he has another property in a more civilised (remembering that areas and neighbors are always changing) area, if he has'nt, just move.

You are going to be fighting a long battle to get anything done, society is degenerating, it can only get worse.

Think of your future sanity and just move.


Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: StuyMac] #514314
6th May 2011 3:36pm
6th May 2011 3:36pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,023
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,023
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by StuyMac
Agreed, but make sure you comply with all the nancy regualtions regarding CCTV - especially if it overlooks more than just your land. It if doesnt comply, the footage will be useless and disregarded


I'd be interested on any Sources for that Stuy, other than for court approved evidence it has to be either analogue or digitally signatured. As far as I'm aware there aren't any specific regulations for a home security camera located on private land.


We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514325
6th May 2011 3:56pm
6th May 2011 3:56pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
StuyMac Offline
Wiki Master
StuyMac  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 12,002
Wirralshire
If it points at, or covers someone elses property then you need to be careful you dont contravene the Human Rights Act 1998 with respect to privacy rights and the Data Protection Act.

Maybe I should have worded my post differently, and put a few "might's" in there - either way Id check it out first....

This may be useful site, as it talks specifically about nuisance neighbours smile

Here is an example I found on this site:

Mr. Smith at 11 Acacia Avenue has a CCTV system installed which monitors persons accessing his premises. It picks up any visitor as soon as they enter the gate and only captures their images whilst they are on his property.

(a) Mr. Smith is entitled to do this.

(b) He does not need to provide a notice saying that the person is entering a CCTV controlled area.

(c) He is not required to provide a copy of the footage he has captured to the Data Subject if they make a request. However, if that CCTV camera picks up images outside Mr. Smith's premises, such as the entrance to his neighbour's premises or persons walking down Acacia Avenue, then he has to consider the implications of the Data Protection Act.




What If There Were No Hypothetical Questions?
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514361
6th May 2011 5:55pm
6th May 2011 5:55pm
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
The_Monk Offline OP
Old Hand
The_Monk  Offline OP
Old Hand
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
i do have cctv at my front door, not looking on anything else and i cctv warning sign in the window.

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514364
6th May 2011 6:03pm
6th May 2011 6:03pm
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,346
Bromborough
hoseman Offline
Forum Master
hoseman  Offline
Forum Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,346
Bromborough
My solution to the kids..... lamethrower skull
The parents will be gutted tho...think of all the benefits they will lose!!!!


IF IT HAS A HOSE THEN IM YOUR MAN

BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN FADE AWAY!
Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514400
6th May 2011 6:47pm
6th May 2011 6:47pm
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 43
Bebington
R
Raymondoj Offline
Newbeee
Raymondoj  Offline
Newbeee
R
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 43
Bebington
Wirral council have an anti social behaviour team, the info can be found here:

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/my-services/community-and-living/community-safety/anti-social-behaviour

You have reported it to the police which is good. Make sure you keep on top of them make sure they look into it.

Don't let it go keep at it like a dog with a bone. The landlord should also have an anti social behaviour policy. Make sure they know about it and ask what they are going to do about it.

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514449
6th May 2011 7:42pm
6th May 2011 7:42pm
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 181
Wirral
D
davaw1 Offline
Enthusiast
davaw1  Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 181
Wirral
How old are the children in question?

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: davaw1] #514524
6th May 2011 9:13pm
6th May 2011 9:13pm
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
The_Monk Offline OP
Old Hand
The_Monk  Offline OP
Old Hand
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 339
Rock Ferry
Originally Posted by davaw1
How old are the children in question?


youngest is no older than four and the oldest is 16.
when the police heard about the youngest being out so late and in pajamas all the time that is when they said social services need to be informed.

so i am presuming they are doing the reporting.

Re: Noise and nuisance issues [Re: The_Monk] #514556
6th May 2011 9:58pm
6th May 2011 9:58pm
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 111
New Ferry
Stranger Offline
Enthusiast
Stranger  Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 111
New Ferry
Your landlord will not be able to do anything as your tenancy agreement will be between you (and your family), and him only.
However, if your problem neighbours have a tenancy agreement with their landlord it is highly likely that they are breaking one or more terms of their agreement, which may be grounds for eviction.
Remember, a lot of landlords can't be bothered evicting tenants unless the trouble directly affects the landlord themself.
Especially if the rent is paid promptly!
It won't do any harm to have a word with your local Citizens Advice Bureau.
Good luck wink

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Shop Window Personal Ads.
by TheGodSplinter. 25th Nov 2021 5:24pm
Social Care reforms unfair!
by Longnails. 25th Nov 2021 2:36pm
The Toughest
by diggingdeeper. 15th Nov 2021 5:18pm
Elm Grove Wallasey
by TomWM. 8th Nov 2021 3:01pm
Will your home be safe from sea rising map
by derekdwc. 8th Nov 2021 10:27am
For Sale & Free
XMAS IS COMING
by lincle. 18th Nov 2021 8:38pm
Benelli TNT 125cc tornado naked
by paul110180. 17th Nov 2021 5:42pm
Wanted 1980s or any vintage toys top prices paid
by Phildog. 30th Oct 2021 6:13pm
Wanted Adult Magazines
by Phildog. 30th Oct 2021 5:35pm
Vauxhall meriva 1.4 VXR rep
by paul110180. 1st Aug 2021 2:26pm
Member Spotlight
diggingdeeper
diggingdeeper
Birkenhead
Posts: 14,023
Joined: July 2008
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
Chammond, JacqMcCo, StevenStafford, Sausage, Newt79
14008 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
Shop Window Personal Ads.
by TheGodSplinter. 25th Nov 2021 5:24pm
Heating engineer
by Paintboffin. 7th Nov 2021 10:03am
Temporary relocation of Birkenhead Market
by mikeeb. 29th May 2021 1:01pm
News : New Topics
Social Care reforms unfair!
by Longnails. 25th Nov 2021 2:36pm
The Toughest
by diggingdeeper. 15th Nov 2021 5:18pm
Will your home be safe from sea rising map
by derekdwc. 8th Nov 2021 10:27am
Budget 2021
by granny. 27th Oct 2021 6:00pm
WARNING
by lincle. 5th Sep 2021 12:56pm
New Enthusiast Forums
Bultaco pursang
by Bultaco. 13th Mar 2019 12:43pm
John Lewis Xmas advert
by cools. 4th Nov 2016 7:14pm
What song are you listening to?
by . 24th Jun 2007 10:06am
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 8:04am
Sunset Tue 3:57pm
Local Time Tue 3:46am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1