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kermit #503756 17th Apr 2011 5:17pm
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yes Kermit, If someone put on my side wall, church of england and english will the police come out as quick and would it be a rasist attack? makes you think, so if your neighbourhood as graffiti thats a eyesore just spray the word muslims over it, it will be clean within the hour.
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Originally Posted by 24424m

As far as "our beliefs", what are they? Are you talking about Christianity, as I don't see many churches bursting at the seams on a Sunday. I find it telling when people pay lip-service to religion when convenient for their agenda, yet don't pracice the difficult bits like charity, understanding or tolerance.


There is no religion, it's all in your head and the head of others who have been forced with it from a young age, preaching it to you in schools ect, it's all a crock of s#*t. Total nonsense which should be banned.
My parents tried to get me to go to Sunday school, I told them exactly what I thought of that. It's not right filling peoples heads with all that religion nonsense c


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I find it amazing that they can spell 'muslims' I guess they were listening when they did RE...

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Originally Posted by _Ste
There is no religion, it's all in your head and the head of others who have been forced with it from a young age, preaching it to you in schools ect, it's all a crock of s#*t.


I wasn't trying to defend religion.

Although I was brought up Roman Catholic, as an adult, I am very much an agnostic.

I'm prepared to stand corrected if I'm wrong on this, but from memory, I recall being taught that everyone who did not except Christ as their saviour would be condemned to the fires of hell. Do Christians still believe that? If so, how is that less intolerant than any other religion?

My view is that whilst people should have the right to hold whatever beliefs they want, however deluded, society should be run from a secular perspective, and the rule of law should have no reference to anyone's "God".

The point I was trying to make earlier was simply that some people will jump on the Christian bandwagon when it suits their agenda.

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Originally Posted by 24424m
My view is that whilst people should have the right to hold whatever beliefs they want, however deluded, society should be run from a secular perspective, and the rule of law should have no reference to anyone's "God".


You may find that difficult to uphold in this country and most of the west considering our laws are based on biblical principles and steeped in Christian tradition. It has dominated in the west for so long that you can't easily separate the two. Its possibly why we are more lenient in this country, because biblical principles teach giving people a chance to rehabilitate. Some may say that people shouldn't be given that chance and that would fall in line with judaic, old testament teaching - eye for an eye (of which Islam shares it's routes). But new testament seeks to put an end to that - which is what next Friday and Sunday is all about (in the 'Christian' calendar).

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Originally Posted by 24424m

When people say "I'm not a racist but............", it seems to me that they usually are, but by prefacing their bigotry like this,they think that excuses their inhumanity.

Aint that the truth. Another good one is when you pull someone up about their hateful comments, they tell you it's 'political correctness gone mad' and 'sorry for not being PC enough for ya'....yeah right. whistle

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You may find that difficult to uphold in this country and most of the west considering our laws are based on biblical principles and steeped in Christian tradition.


I agree that it is difficult, but would you rather law was based on superstition / unsubstantiated beliefs?

There are many in this country who are critical of Sharia Law for understandable reasons, and yet they are prepared to accept entirely subjective "Christian" laws, however offensive.

I genuinely don't understand how they fail to see the irony.


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i must be an eggnostic as i believe in easter.sorry just thought i would lighten this subject a little.

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Just an update, the council have been around and obliterated with more paint, hopefully they will come back tomorrow and remove completely. Police have been in the road and area again asking more questions, Hopefully they are closing in on the sod that done it.

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That's ridiculous! They've just given them a nice dark background to come along with some white paint now and make it stand out even more! raftl

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Jesus christ,who called in the god squad.


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lol i don t know as i dont know a Barry .must have done something for that to be painted on Tedmus.


Oh, poor Tedmus. I originally understood it had been painted on a fence.


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