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Sounds like a good idea. How old is mature ???

I remember Granville Terrace very well. Susan Walker, Dave Walker, Maureen Huckson etc.

With respect Sarah I don't dismiss you at all BUT these myths keep re-surfacing, your Nan is only repeating things she was told in her younger days. Some of these things can be traced to a single source (a book or a historical paper etc) but often are just the things of folk-law. I have searched (in vain) for years to find ACTUAL physical deviance of these caves (sorry the tunnels, small caves do exist) and keep returning to the same sources of information, time and time again.... Just like the folks who will tell you that at one time a squirrel would have been able to move from Rock Ferry to Hilbury without touching the ground ... as most of the wirral's TRUE forests were cleared in pre-historic times, this story is based on two things ...1) the fact that there was a "Royal Forest" on the Wirral .... a royal forest is actually a hunting ground and doesn't have that many trees in it (although maybe a few woods and spinneys) ...2 A fancy poem stating the fact that starts something like "From Rock Ferry to Hibury, a Squirrel can jump from tree to tree".

My comments about walking all over the country in these caves and it being true because my Nan told me were .. I agree .. a little flippant but it was an attempt to "Lighten" the subject a little.

I am in FULL agreement that we MUST get the memories from older folks before they aren't there to ask any more .... all I ask is that when you get the information BE careful as to what is folk-law being passed down the generations and what is actual fact of something that happened to that person.

As I say, I am sorry if I offended you in any way, I will be less flippant in the future.

Mature? Anything with a pulse and an ability to listen & contribute sensibly. Mature refers to the mind and attitude rather than to age

Granville Terrace - I "tested" mum the other day. She can more or less recite who lived in which house at the time of her teens and later ie 1930-40 I guess. OK, like most elderly people the next time she tells me some details have changed - this can be genuine as memories return and is why I think a get-together of the older folk would be beneficial.

From our family the name from there is Ledsham - with associations to Hughes and Landsborough, and maybe Upton/ Upshon although the latter were the folk who lived in the cottage that is now 40 Grove Road.

Snod