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mechanic wanted! #443924
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i might be after a part time mechanic soon,

wages minimum wage for age, depending on experence,

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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: chris_gilly] #443936
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Does your vacuum suck? Get a Dyson!!


Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: kimpri] #443952
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Im sorry if you take offence at this but WTF!!

2-3 years training as a mechanic to earn minimum wage? Where is the payoff in that for the training that has been undertaken? Why should someone train for 3 years to earn minimum wage when they can work in the shop on the corner and earn that from day 1?

Do you think nurses should get minimum wage?

Minimum wage after 3 years training is a joke!!


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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443954
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Would be ideal for someone coming to the end of College/training who's looking for part time work to get very valuable experience.

Must have lots of business Chris!? Not suprised though - good, honest worker who doesn't rip you off and doesn't mess you about thumbsup

Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443956
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Originally Posted by Hiekel_Essterol
Im sorry if you take offence at this but WTF!!

2-3 years training as a mechanic to earn minimum wage? Where is the payoff in that for the training that has been undertaken? Why should someone train for 3 years to earn minimum wage when they can work in the shop on the corner and earn that from day 1?

Do you think nurses should get minimum wage?

Minimum wage after 3 years training is a joke!!


I Guarentee there will be a large number of people who would snap this job up im sure a young lad whos just finished training would love to do this for minimum wage. I dont see what your complaining about to be honest

Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443958
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I served my apprenticeship for 5 years as an precision engineer, and there is no pay back in that, the money is very poor for what we do, BUT in hindsight (being a wonderful thing it is) I wish I had served my time as a mechanic! So its not a bad thing. We in engineering as a company try to get 35.00 an hour plus materials. The garage side of things can make allot more than that, some main dealers charge 86.00 an hour! That is not saying I earn 35.00 an hour, I dont get twice the miniumum wage per hour.


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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: DJ_Karl_David] #443966
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Originally Posted by DJ_Karl_David
Originally Posted by Hiekel_Essterol
Im sorry if you take offence at this but WTF!!

2-3 years training as a mechanic to earn minimum wage? Where is the payoff in that for the training that has been undertaken? Why should someone train for 3 years to earn minimum wage when they can work in the shop on the corner and earn that from day 1?

Do you think nurses should get minimum wage?

Minimum wage after 3 years training is a joke!!


I Guarentee there will be a large number of people who would snap this job up im sure a young lad whos just finished training would love to do this for minimum wage. I dont see what your complaining about to be honest


So you would be happy to train for 3 years only to come out of it and earn less than you could do flipping burgers?


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Yes. Then work you're way up.

It annoys me when the news are saying 'oh no, no jobs for all the people coming out of university' bollocks. There are loads of jobs out there. What they mean is 'No high paying jobs for these people to go straight into because there don't want to have to gain experience first'

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Hang on, as a trainee mechanic you would have already spent 2-3 years getting the experience on the job.

Like Ive said do we expect nurses to work for minimum wage?

Or take it further, do we expect doctors and solicitors to work for minumum wage when they start?


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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443971
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In the current economic climate and with 5 million unemployed, there will always be employers who take advantage of the situation. In one way the minimum wage has protected workers from unscrupulous employers who would still pay sweat shop wages of 2 an hour. On saying that it also gives employers the impression that as long as they pay at least the minimum wage thats also ok and acceptable. If you pay peanuts your going to get monkeys, i couldn't look a fellow trades person in the eyes if i wasn't paying the going rate that reflects their skills.


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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443972
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With pay offers like minimum wage we will end up with a country full of unskilled labour because no one will see the benefit in spending 3 years training to come out and earn less than a burger flipper.


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Originally Posted by bert1
In the current economic climate and with 5 million unemployed, there will always be employers who take advantage of the situation. In one way the minimum wage has protected workers from unscrupulous employers who would still pay sweat shop wages of 2 an hour. On saying that it also gives employers the impression that as long as they pay at least the minimum wage thats also ok and acceptable. If you pay peanuts your going to get monkeys, i couldn't look a fellow trades person in the eyes if i wasn't paying the going rate that reflects their skills.


Well said Bert


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Re: mechanic wanted! [Re: Hiekel_Essterol] #443975
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Originally Posted by Hiekel_Essterol
Originally Posted by DJ_Karl_David
Originally Posted by Hiekel_Essterol
Im sorry if you take offence at this but WTF!!

2-3 years training as a mechanic to earn minimum wage? Where is the payoff in that for the training that has been undertaken? Why should someone train for 3 years to earn minimum wage when they can work in the shop on the corner and earn that from day 1?

Do you think nurses should get minimum wage?

Minimum wage after 3 years training is a joke!!


I Guarentee there will be a large number of people who would snap this job up im sure a young lad whos just finished training would love to do this for minimum wage. I dont see what your complaining about to be honest


So you would be happy to train for 3 years only to come out of it and earn less than you could do flipping burgers?


To start off with yes i would. simple answer

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And therein lies the problem. If you are prepared to undervalue the skills learned then employers are going to undervalue the skills a whole lot longer.


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What should be asked, is an employer going to get the best out of someone who takes a job on low wages out of desperation. Anyone who takes a job on minimum wage knowing full well they should be on twice as much and possibly more are not going to put their heart and soul in to their work, so it pays the employer to pay a decent wage.


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