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#419978 - 16th Jul 2010 3:54pm Borough Road Brickworks
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Does anyone have any information whatsoever on the Borough Road Brickworks? I believe the College was built on the site, but I may be wrong. They were in operation in the late 1890's.
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#420028 - 16th Jul 2010 9:48pm Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: sellio]
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Hi Sellio

Curious one, I would agree that the site of the college would have been the brickworks, but for some strange reason it isn't labelled as such on OS maps from 1850 to 1900, it is just a blank piece of land, however maps after 1900 (after the brickworks went bust) clearly show a quarry/pit area and a pond which would tie in with a brickworks.

What is even more interesting is that area was only built up in that era and initially Borough Rd was called Happy Valley Rd, which possibly limits how old the Brickworks were.

My only hesitation is that the college area generally is sandstone and would therefore be more likely to be a quarry especially when you look at the depth, but a sandstone quarry would be at odds with becoming a clay pit - or would it, need a geologist.

Just up the road on the north side of Woodchurch Rd is where Birkenhead Brick Works was.

Will keep my eye out for more info.
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#420036 - 16th Jul 2010 10:24pm Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: diggingdeeper]
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#420275 - 18th Jul 2010 2:15pm Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: Capt_America]
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My great grandad owned the brickworks. He went bankrupt December 1899 ( Christmas Day! What a Christmas present!). The court papers cite his business as Borough Road Brickworks. He was in partnership with his son-in-law, Andrew Flemming Bancroft. His name was William Jones. He was also a plasterer and housebuilder (census information).


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#420871 - 21st Jul 2010 11:25pm Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: sellio]
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There's not a lot of info around on the brickworks, but I've managed to piece together a bit.

Gore's/Kelly's Directories reveal that at one point there were two brickworks on Borough Road at about the same time, possibly connected with the construction work going on in Devonshire Park where most of the houses were built at about this period. The main one, as you rightly say, was on the site later occupied by the Technical College, the other was further along on the same side, just before the bottom of Mount Road. This second one was established in mid-1882 by Llewellin Godsell, a coal merchant who owned coalyards in Cleveland Street and Exmouth Street; the directories indicate that the Cleveland Street yard had at one time also been used as a brickworks.
L Godsell & Son's Patent Brick Works is listed in Gore's/Kelly's until 1890, but not thereafter.

The one on the Tech site was known as the Wirral Patent Brick Works, and was built in early 1883 by Messrs Crowe & Williams (The plans for the works were approved on 30th November 1882). William Crowe and Thomas Williams were originally timber merchants, and owned two large sawmills in Birkenhead, the Birkenhead Sawmills in Bridge Street and the Victoria Sawmills in Price Street. Their names appear in the trade directories until 1888, after which the brickworks appears once in the name of William Dawson in 1890 before disappearing from the record. Local newspapers confirm, in fact, that the firm of Crowe & Williams was wound up in October 1887.

The association of your great-grandad's firm with the brickworks is puzzling, as the trade directories don't record any brickmaking taking place on Borough Road after 1890. Newspaper adverts (see below) indicate Jones & Bancroft, builders, were operating out of their original premises at 134 Oxton Road until at least 1897. By 1899, however, they had moved to 3 Kingsland Road, which of course backs onto the brickworks site. Perhaps they were merely using part of the old brickworks premises as a contractor's yard rather than actually making bricks there?

As diggingdeeper says the Wirral Patent Brick works isn't marked on any of the published OS maps, probably because the existence of the works falls between the 1875 Edition and the First Revision in 1899-1900. However, I have managed to locate a copy of a large-scale 1:500 OS sheet on which some kind person in the Borough Engineer's Department in the late 1800s has drawn on the location of the brickworks and its associated kiln. It's not the clearest copy in the world, but it's probably the only one that exists! As the scale is rather large and the section I've been able to copy shows little else apart from Valley Lodge (now McMullen's Funeral Home) at left and the bottom of Kingsland Road at right, I've also scaled it down and superimposed the buildings onto a copy of the 1909 1:2500 sheet to give a better idea of the location.


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Description: Wirral Patent Brick Works

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#420878 - 22nd Jul 2010 1:28am Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: marty99fred]
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#421059 - 23rd Jul 2010 10:39am Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: diggingdeeper]
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I would like to add to the debate with this. On an old OS map(can't remember which one) I saw a tunnel marked from Borough Rd up to Dingle/Beech Rd, I was born in 12 Dingle Rd and there was and never had been a house at what would have been No. 16. Now this tunnel would have been a spit from the Brickworks in Mount Grove(which is now Christ Church Claughton school), was close to opposite Beech Rd. I beleive that the tunnel was used to carry building material up to that area Dingle, Beech, Ash, Milton and maybe Sycamore. Mainly because Victoria would have been too steep and Larch was not even a street at that stage late 1800's. Another interesting tidbit. Maybe the William Crowe of the Wirral Patent Brickworks was related to the WF Crowe and Son who had a builders yard on the corner of Chestnut Grove and Derby Rd(I used to work there when I was about 15). Would love somebody to find that map would answer a lot of questions.

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#421131 - 23rd Jul 2010 6:49pm Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: mindplayer]
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This was the proposed extension to the rail network, it was never built (apart from a short heading at Birkenhead Central) but has been copied from a map showing the proposal.

These two links show extensive discussion on it.

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Edited by diggingdeeper (23rd Jul 2010 6:51pm)
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#421186 - 24th Jul 2010 2:52am Re: Borough Road Brickworks [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Talking about Brickworks this link mentions Birkenhead Brickworks Company in relation to a rail line coming from Woodchurch Rd.

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/245213/3.html
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