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#419671 - 14th Jul 2010 9:37pm Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000
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WIRRAL'S controversial cctv Smart "Spy" Car has helped the council raise more than 88,000 in revenue from parking fines over the last year, according to a new report.

Research by Big Brother Watch - a campaign group fighting intrusions on our privacy and freedom - shows that 88,350 was raised through fixed the issuing penalty notices and 3,078 from fines for parking contraventions in the borough during April last year and March. The vehicle is operated by private parking contractor NCL.


A spokesman for Big Brother Watch said the evidence suggests the spread of the cctv car is being fuelled by private contractors for commercial reasons, and not in any effort to reduce dangerous driving.

But Wirral council says all money that has been raised is used to implement road safety measures.

Cllr Lesley Rennie, Wirral's cabinet member for Streetscene and transport services, told the Globe: "We are using whatever means we can to improve road safety, particularly around schools, and the camera car is a really important part of that work.

"Sadly, as long as a minority of drivers continue to park illegally, and put childrens' lives at risk, we will need to use the camera car.

"However, by law, we cannot make any money from parking enforcement activities, and any money we raise from parking enforcement is ploughed back into further road safety measures."

However, her views seem at odds with her former colleague, ex-Tory councillor Leah Fraser, who lost her seat in May's local elections.

In June of last year, Cllr Fraser said: "Big Brother is alive and well in Wallasey Town Hall, whether it is secretly snooping using anti-terrorist laws or a video camera on a 20ft pole going past your bedroom window.

Big Brother Watch's research revealed that, nationally, 54 cars in operation across 25 councils have caught and fined at least 188,000 motorists over the 10 months between the same period.

Their concern is heightened because 22 of the 31 councils lease their cctv cars from private parking contractors, who make no secret of the vehicles' usefulness in making profits.

Campaign director Dylan Sharpe said: "The cctv Smart car represents a very dangerous escalation in Britain's surveillance society.

"The vehicles are sent out to catch people and make money, with road safety only an afterthought. 8 million is an eye-watering amount to take in fines in just 25 councils.

"It is surely only a matter of time before more councils start using these cars. The coalition Government must act now and prevent that from happening."


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#419683 - 14th Jul 2010 10:12pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: ]
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hmmmmm the spy car - which was speeding down the m53 this evening in the outside lane heading northboud - slowed down when he saw someone in a yellow coat in a car though!

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#419725 - 15th Jul 2010 9:20am Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: bazzoh]
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i saw the little p@rick parked in bebington on double yellows with the mast extended doing other people for doing the same it was only for the fact that i was towing another van that i didnt stop and take a picture and report him

but then it will be one rule for then and another for us

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#419774 - 15th Jul 2010 3:16pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: raymondo]
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It's currently sitting by my house, parked on yellow zig zags with its pole up outside stanton road primary school waiting to catch the parents picking their kids up

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#419775 - 15th Jul 2010 3:32pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: MrHouston]
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Originally Posted By: MrHouston
It's currently sitting by my house, parked on yellow zig zags with its pole up outside stanton road primary school waiting to catch the parents picking their kids up
Take a camera,
He must be breaking the law parking on zig zags. mad
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#419776 - 15th Jul 2010 3:37pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: kimpri]
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Won't be long now before they deploy the Thought Police...
...it's just all happening a bit later than Orwell predicted.

Doesn't the Magna Carta have anything to say about video surveillance of the people by their masters? ("all for their own good" of course!)
<edit to fix a typo>


Edited by CVCVCV (15th Jul 2010 3:38pm)

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#419780 - 15th Jul 2010 4:41pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: CVCVCV]
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get a pic you get points for parking on zigzags that will slow the bas**rd down!
keep an eye out peeps get some pics so we can get our own back!!!

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#419849 - 15th Jul 2010 9:46pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: raymondo]
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Its such a shame most of the people who have been sent tickets via this vehicle dont think to appeal the charge. I dont know of a single person so far who has appealed and lost, including myself.
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#419987 - 16th Jul 2010 4:24pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
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Originally Posted By: Hiekel_Essterol
Its such a shame most of the people who have been sent tickets via this vehicle dont think to appeal the charge. I dont know of a single person so far who has appealed and lost, including myself.
Do you mean you appealed and won?

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#419991 - 16th Jul 2010 4:37pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: CVCVCV]
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No, I dont know of a single person so far who has appealed and lost, including myself, as in all appeals have been won

Appeals from everyone I am aware of have been successful and the tickets were cancelled. I probably could have worded it better tbh.
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#420030 - 16th Jul 2010 9:52pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
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i got a ticket ages ago not for parking on yellows but for being in a play street there stil chasing me for it 12months on

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#420405 - 19th Jul 2010 12:54pm Re: Spy car hits motorists for more than 80,000 [Re: Hiekel_Essterol]
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Think they can now park wherever they want as the council (the owners of the spy car) made it OK to do so. They have to put a sign up now though. If they feel like it, I suppose.
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