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Trearan #398557 31st Mar 2010 3:56pm
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not long now till the great eastern is knocked down and i cant wait to get rid of this eyesore,counting down the days .....

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From all your defending of the demolition and gloating over it's apparent commencement I'm starting to think that you have some financial agenda in relation to the property smirk
So is it the demolition contract you've got or are you the developer?
Either way you come across as a petty/greedy person.


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no i just have to look at the eyesore each morning when i wake up and look out of my window

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Originally Posted by engineer1980
no i just have to look at the eyesore each morning when i wake up and look out of my window
Try optrex raftl


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Looks like a losing battle. The thing I have noticed though is that people think councillors are the council but they are not, it's the execs who run things and I get the impression that there are invested interests which get involved with that lot. I've been to planning meetings and the body language between the council "officers" and the developers is something worth close observation and conclusion can definitely be drawn. When I voiced my concerns I was told "Prove it". Doncaster Council have just been wrapped up because of the goings on there and it seems other councils might benefit from a bit of investigation too, and I am not necessarily talking about the councillors themselves here. Just my opinion.


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no i just have to look at the eyesore each morning when i wake up and look out of my window
Try optrex raftl


I have to agree with Engineer1980 - the building is a mess.
I checked out the plans online, and I reckon it will be an improvement.

That's just my opinion before anyone hits back at my comments!!

I see it every day too and it makes me cringe to see it in such a state. It makes the place look rough and untidy.


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Wirral Council's planning committee is meeting at 6pm on Tuesday 1st June to make its decision on the application. The planning department is recommending approval of the housing scheme, even though it breaks a number of planning guidelines.

Yesterday, the developer sent in a team who ripped the railings and gates off the garden walls and erected fencing with signs saying "DEMOLITION - DENGER KEEP OUT". They seem very assured that it will be approved.

I have been invited to speak at the meeting for 5 minutes. I have asked if I can make a visual presentation which I will try to work on this weekend on my laptop whilst shivering in a tent in the rain in Staffordshire for three days.

In the meantime - with the thought "We shouldn't have let that be demolished" - can everyone please nominate some other lost treasures which, if faced with being demolished today rather than in previous years, hindsight would have indicated that we should have kept. I'd like some Wirral examples of buildings that should have been kept to list in my presentation. Answers please by Monday night. smile Thanks.

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For anyone who is still interested, the planning committee delayed making its decision, and will be visiting the site of the pub at midday on Thursday 1st July to have a look at things for themselves. If anyone wants to be there to tell the committee members what they think about the proposals (whether for or against), you are welcome to do so.

The application will subsequently be on the agenda at the next planning committee meeting on Tuesday 6th July at 6pm at Wallasey Town Hall where I will finally get to speak.

In the meantime, the pub continues to deteriorate - so much damage has been caused to it by the developer in recent weeks in advance of the application's approval.

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It should be pointed out that the developer is profiteering by purposely making the place derelict. What's the betting it goes up in flames.


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The Great Eastern is being demolished - probably today (23rd June). Worksharp is living up to its name and getting the building destroyed before the Council's planning committee can do their site visit. To be honest, we expected something like this to happen.

I just wonder how smug those residents in Clipper View who wrote in letters in support of the proposals will be feeling when they find out that the new houses will be built too close to the backs of their homes. The Council's planning officer has recommended that the application to build the new houses is approved, even though they will be closer to the existing houses in Clipper View than national guidelines recommend. When that conifer hedge comes down in future years, their new neighbours in those swanky "affordable homes" are going to have a wonderful view of any bedroom activities. Whoops!!

Unfortunately, I will probably be in work when the deed is carried out. If anyone is passing as the building comes down, please try to take some pictures so we can record the event on our website and make those who allowed this to happen hang their heads in shame in the years to come when they finally appreciate what they have allowed to be lost.

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Don't they have to have permits to block the public footway/roadway?

They also need to have given 6 weeks notice to building control who issue a list of compliances that are required.

It is a novelty of planning permission that you need it to do "substantial alterations" but you don't need it to demolish a building.


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I will try get some shots if poss.

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The Great Eastern has gone, so sad to see it go,such a shame!
every were is covered in dust,for those who wanted it pulled down....hope you have dust everywere!!!

some pics i took today........ [Linked Image]

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