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#377156 - 1st Jan 2010 6:24pm Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful
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#377168 - 1st Jan 2010 7:10pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: DavidB]
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#377173 - 1st Jan 2010 7:57pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: Capt_America]
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it must be the dawn of destruction because i thought i'd never hear those words in the same sentence in that exact order.

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#377203 - 1st Jan 2010 11:36pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: Shadow_Omega]
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But they never admitted that council tax is illegal .... in the circumstances given and to whom they claimed against, there would be no liability for council tax.

Looking at the rest of the tpuc site, there is a lot of bluff by just blocking anything that comes their way, that doesn't mean what the tpuc do, or suggest, is legal.
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#377217 - 2nd Jan 2010 8:51am Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Oh wow, that made very interesting reading! I bet thats left a few people scratching their heads in confusion and worry lol.

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#377495 - 3rd Jan 2010 9:29pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: starbuck75]
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i keep getting hit with bailifs letters demanding money for old council tax bills that after paying one another magicly gets found, after going to c/advice they say basicly youy have to pay them! is there a way out of all this?
i could do with all the helpi can on this as c/advice are useless

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#377497 - 3rd Jan 2010 9:35pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: raymondo]
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Wirral Advocacy might be a good one to ask.. ?

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#377498 - 3rd Jan 2010 9:52pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: starbuck75]
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Originally Posted By: starbuck75
Wirral Advocacy might be a good one to ask.. ?

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#377499 - 3rd Jan 2010 9:58pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: raymondo]
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Originally Posted By: raymondo
i keep getting hit with bailifs letters demanding money for old council tax bills that after paying one another magicly gets found, after going to c/advice they say basicly youy have to pay them! is there a way out of all this?
i could do with all the helpi can on this as c/advice are useless


Or just send a copy of the letter the guy (JIM) in the report sent!
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#377500 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:01pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: Sanchez]
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Okay folks... so if we stop paying our council tax, how do the essential services that are funded by it, keep running?

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#377501 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:01pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: raymondo]
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Originally Posted By: raymondo
i keep getting hit with bailifs letters demanding money for old council tax bills that after paying one another magicly gets found, after going to c/advice they say basicly youy have to pay them! is there a way out of all this?
i could do with all the helpi can on this as c/advice are useless


Are you saying you don't owe the money?
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#377502 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:07pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: MattLFC]
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Originally Posted By: MattLFC
Okay folks... so if we stop paying our council tax, how do the essential services that are funded by it, keep running?

wink


Out of all of the services they offer matt I use all of none of them, the only one I use is the police from time to time, but thats only to report other peoples problems. If some thing is wrong in my life I will handle it my self.
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#377504 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:14pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: Sanchez]
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I think sanchez you get more out of council tax than you think.
refuse collection, highways, street cleaning, leisure centres, park & recreation grounds, planning & building control, environmental health, education, social services, libraries, licensing and probably more.
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#377507 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:15pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: Sanchez]
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Are you saying, we should ditch the police service, so we don't have to pay any council tax? Do you not need your rubbish collecting, do you want the streets full of peoples rubbish? Do you never walk down the pavements etc? What if your house catches fire, you happy for it to be burnt down to nothing because the fire service are not there?

If we don't pay for these essential services through our council tax, then we will pay for them through some other means. Knowing the Labour government, it will mean either another increase in fuel duty, which would probably mean another 50% added to the cost of fuel, and/or higher taxes for the poorest people in society.

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#377509 - 3rd Jan 2010 10:20pm Re: Wirral council admits that Council Tax is Unlawful [Re: bert1]
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Originally Posted By: bert1
I think sanchez you get more out of council tax than you think.
refuse collection, highways, street cleaning, leisure centres, park & recreation grounds, planning & building control, environmental health, education, social services, libraries, licensing and probably more.


At this present momnent and time I use absolutly none of them, and im not being pig headed here I acyually dont. Not even bin collecting as I go to clatterbridge were i am charged.

As for enviromental health well.......thats a joke and education.......perhaps if I have kids. Seriously I cant think of anything I use.

And Im pretty sure that on my bill for council tax it is only broken down to 3 things

1. police
2. fire
3. rubbish collection.

The tax on the money I earn pays for the rest of the things that you stated.
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