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#282783 - 11th Jan 2009 5:54pm Old old map - Flaybrick Hills
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Hi all, been askin my mum and dad about Bidston Hill (my dad thinks he's knows another way in, will post it on the Bidston Hill Tunnels thread see if you've already been) and we've managed to find a really old map. Not sure when it's from (think it's my nana's, so maybe early 1900's?) and theres a couple of things that i wanted more info on.

on this map, the area where we think Bidston Hill should be is all referred to as "Flaybrick Cemetary" and the part where Flaybrick Cemetary should be is known as "Flaybrick Hills". Now my point of view on that is that Bidston Hill was built on a cemetary. Am i right or am i way off the mark here lol???

Also there is something marked on it as "Claughton Halls" just on the outskirts of where Claughton Village is now and a little way north of Birkenhead's second park. Anyone know what this was??

I don't have a scanner, so i can't even Upload this map onto here, but will try and find a similar one on t'internet now

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#282898 - 11th Jan 2009 9:23pm Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: gemgem87]
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Flaybrick cemetery and Flaybrick hills should be by each other's side with a road running either side - Boundary and Tollemache. Bidston Hill has always been separate to Flaybrick. Not quite sure where the name Flaybrick comes from. The area, before being a cemetery and quarries, was partitioned into fields for farming. Flaybrick may have been the name of a hamlet in that area. After the cemetery the area east of it - Bidston Ave (or Bailey Street then) was all known as the Flaybrick Hill Estate. The cemetery was developed in the years running up to its opening in 1864.
Now I think about it I think Claughton Hall was the name of the local manor, owned at one point by William Jackson.

'The surface is dotted over with villas and other handsome suburban residences, amongst which is the Manor-House, lately called Claughton Hall, the seat of Mr. Jackson. Stretching down from this mansion, in a south-eastern direction, lies the fine public park of Birkenhead; and almost opposite the park entrance are the house and grounds of J. R. Pim, Esq., by whom a meeting-house for the Society of Friends has been erected on his own property.'

I think Claughton Hall was somewhere around Grosvenor Rd/Devonshire Place.
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#282900 - 11th Jan 2009 9:32pm Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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That's answered everything i wanted to know and more lol! thanks, thats cleared up a lot. shame Bidston Hill wasn't on top of a cemetry tho, that would have been a bit eerie and cool smile

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#282912 - 11th Jan 2009 9:46pm Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: gemgem87]
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I wouldn't be surprised if there were people buried up on the hill anyway, especially with its connections with early pre-christian religions.
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#282976 - 11th Jan 2009 11:05pm Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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I had the manor in the wrong place - map shows it as being on Egerton Rd. Its roughly where St Seiriol Close is now.

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#283044 - 12th Jan 2009 8:50am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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Claughton Manor House was built in about 1850 by local benefactor Sir William Jackson, with its gardens designed by Sir Joseph Paxton. It occupied a site between Egerton Road and Manor Hill until it was pulled down in the 1930s
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#283045 - 12th Jan 2009 8:52am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: jonno40]
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Thanks jonno, got any more? Have I got it in the right place?
I was reading Harry Neilson's book and he mentions their property in Forest Rd overlooking Claughton Manor's lands. Any idea which house on Forest was Airliewood?
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#283050 - 12th Jan 2009 9:31am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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Unfortunatly what is already posted is pretty much all I know on the subject but i am trawling the tinternet as we speak.
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#283052 - 12th Jan 2009 9:35am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: jonno40]
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I had trouble finding Claughton Hall - kept throwing up the Claughton in Lancashire.
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#283056 - 12th Jan 2009 9:44am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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This is all i could find, Claughton
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#283104 - 12th Jan 2009 11:00am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: jonno40]
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my map puts it in an area now known as st seriol road between grosvernor road and edgerton road. it is close to forest road too and manor hill is on the other side of it.

Airliewood is about halfway down forest road, number 32 according to Google maps. hope that helps Miss G smile

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#283106 - 12th Jan 2009 11:01am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: gemgem87]
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st seriol road is where Claughton Hills would have been, not Airliewood. Sorry, didn't really make that clear lol

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#283107 - 12th Jan 2009 11:03am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: gemgem87]
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Huh?
Claughton Hills? or Hall? I found the Hall to be on Egerton Rd. Yes Airliewood was of Forest Rd.
I didn't realse google named the houses on their maps - thats useful smile
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#283108 - 12th Jan 2009 11:09am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: MissGuided]
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sorry, i meant claughton hall, i'm not with it this mornin :S lol

i think it only names some of them, i just put in airliewood, wirral and it popped up tbh smile

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#283112 - 12th Jan 2009 11:27am Re: Old old map - Flaybrick Hills [Re: gemgem87]
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cool! smile
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