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Over the last couple of days, 400 whales stranded and died off the coast of Australia. 88 pilot whales have been saved, and another 200 are being helped. A race against time. The rest are dead.


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Originally Posted by granny


Over the last couple of days, 400 whales stranded and died off the coast of Australia. 88 pilot whales have been saved, and another 200 are being helped. A race against time. The rest are dead.




Sorry another 20 (not 200) are being helped.


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It’s terrible ,saw this on the news yesterday , they don’t know why they do this. That’s all we seem to hear these days , bad news. Worlds a mess!

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Because of their weight the longer they are beached the more likely they are to die because they slowly crush themselves so the ones they do get back to sea may have been injured too badly and then just beach themselves again or end up dying at sea prolonging their pain.

There has been a study saying the best thing to do is euthanise them instead of prolonging their agony by dragging them back along the shoreline into the water. Sad I know.
Originally Posted by James Barnett, a veterinary surgeon and director of British Divers Marine Life Rescue
“Large animals are very difficult to euthanise humanely and effectively due to their size,” said Barnett. “If a suitable, effective method is not available, then leaving the animal to die a natural death on the beach may be the most humane course of action as this is likely to be considerably quicker than if the animal is returned to sea.
The best course of action in certain scenarios might, in fact, be to do nothing at all, no matter the public pressure or the instinct to return the animal to its natural habitat.

Having said that, the study was talking about very large whales so pilot whales may have longer before their bodies start collapsing in on themselves. Pilot whales weigh between 1.5t and 3t.

Here is the article.
https://scroll.in/article/816670/do...whales-die-may-be-the-humane-thing-to-do

Also, whales beaching themselves is not a new phenomenon. Apparently, it has been happening for thousands of years.

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Interesting points, Mikeeb, although I'm sure there must be experts on hand , because as you say, this is nothing new to Australia. However, it was stated that they have never know so many to be beaching themselves all at once.

We know mankind has caused major problems for the earth, and I really hope that now we are exploring the deep for all sorts of reasons, including laying cables, that we are not in the process of causing more problems for the life within our oceans.
Somehow, I have little faith in that hope.


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Originally Posted by granny
I really hope that now we are exploring the deep for all sorts of reasons, including laying cables, that we are not in the process of causing more problems for the life within our oceans.
Somehow, I have little faith in that hope.

Me neither Granny.
Wherever us humans turn up, we end up f**king it up for the native species.

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Just read about someone who has today had a premonition about something major happening in the Pacific Ocean.

Thought I would mention it here, so I don't forget.......just in case !


I suppose it could be the Japanese who are about to dump radioactive water from Fukushima Plant, into the sea !


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As we approach New Year , and look at the stars in the sky we must realise we were never the first.....

Dating back 5,500 years ago the Sumariana and Babyloninas had mapped the sky.

A copy 650 BC is kept in the British Museum.

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Wow ! Another volcano erupted this morning. Mount Aso in Japan.



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I think I've mentioned this before, I remember taking one of my grandaughters around the museum. on one of the displays there was a box with instructions to raise the lid and see the worlds biggest predator, inside was a mirror. omg

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Very profound Casper and very true…A tornado in Widnes today. Yikes! Too close for comfort.

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@Casper, an eye opener to many !

Came across this last night, which I found quite absorbing. Earthquakes happening all over the world, constantly. Not big ones, but showed me that the earth movement just rumbles along 24/7
(OK, I watch odd things to keep me amused :D)



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I think I read a few months ago that the moon is either the furthest or nearest distance it has been for xx years or whatever, this will change the flexing of the earths crust. Its not just water that moves, the solids do as well.


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I've seen a display like that, Casper - the caption was something like 'the world's most dangerous animal'. Good clear message!

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Originally Posted by granny
@Casper, an eye opener to many !

Came across this last night, which I found quite absorbing. Earthquakes happening all over the world, constantly. Not big ones, but showed me that the earth movement just rumbles along 24/7
(OK, I watch odd things to keep me amused :D)


I have seen a documentary many years ago about a supervolcano in Yellowstone Park which would have the potential to cause a mini ice age and also make North America almost inhabitable.

"USGS, University of Utah and National Park Service scientists with the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory maintain that they "see no evidence that another such cataclysmic eruption will occur at Yellowstone in the foreseeable future. Recurrence intervals of these events are neither regular nor predictable.""

Still, a very scary thought.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_Caldera

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