WikiWirral its great, register, enjoy and welcome.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,029,043
Topics75,694
Members13,576
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs13
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
46 registered members (AndyT, 8 invisible), 1,227 guests, and225 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
190 car sales
New General Forums
Wild West (Leasowe)
by GaryFromWirral. 23rd Nov 2020 6:44pm
Sony PlayStation 5 sales
by _Ste_. 21st Nov 2020 9:46am
Ebay fraudsters
by _Ste_. 16th Nov 2020 12:23pm
Dominic Goings
by casper. 14th Nov 2020 9:48am
New Wirral History
Fairs Cameras - Bebington
by diggingdeeper. 23rd Nov 2020 4:08pm
Wirral Home Guard
by bridekirk. 12th Nov 2020 10:34pm
Genealogical Research - Macmillan
by Alex_Macmillan. 10th Oct 2020 11:57am
Outdoor swimming pools
by mikeeb. 30th Jun 2020 4:26pm
122 Wirral Hotel 97 Cleveland Street Russell St
by derekdwc. 4th Jul 2014 9:34pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
The gathering storm: Mersey waterfront today
Topic Replies
Oxton Flats
by AndyT. 24th Nov 2020 12:09pm
Fairs Cameras - Bebington
by Fidelio. 24th Nov 2020 11:35am
View Ranger
by mikeeb. 24th Nov 2020 10:42am
car stupidity
by diggingdeeper. 23rd Nov 2020 4:15pm
Rockferry high school fire
by diggingdeeper. 23rd Nov 2020 3:51pm
WANTED...used garden roller
by spider. 23rd Nov 2020 3:02pm
Liverpool Airport
by Excoriator. 23rd Nov 2020 12:59pm
Outdoor swimming pools
by cools. 23rd Nov 2020 11:52am
2009 Mini 1.4 First - Full JCW Bodykit
by delta6. 23rd Nov 2020 10:14am
November
M T W T F S S
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30
Recent Posts : What's On ?
View Ranger
by mikeeb. 24th Nov 2020 10:42am
Pontins Southport
by mikeeb. 18th Nov 2020 1:13pm
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Page 1 of 2 1 2
New Brighton Masterplan #1080332
28th Oct 2020 12:35pm
28th Oct 2020 12:35pm
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
mikeeb Offline OP

Forum Addict
mikeeb  Offline OP

Forum Addict
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
Most of us love New Brighton and would love to see it regain its glory days. There are a lot of things we would like to happen, like, don't knock down the Queens and replace it with ugly apartments. Although Fort Perch Rock is privately owned, can't something be done with it. Why is the marine lake not being used? When the New Palace is knocked down, don't build more apartments.

Our Lido Ltd are involed with the consultation for a new outdoor heated pool.
https://peoplespool.co.uk/news/new-brighton-consultation

"Wirral Council is developing a masterplan for New Brighton, which will set out a clear and shared vision to revitalise New Brighton over the next 15 years.

We want to hear your views to ensure the masterplan reflects what people want.

We want to find out what sort of place New Brighton could be and to get your views on the issues that the masterplan should address."
https://haveyoursay.wirral.gov.uk/1new-brighton-masterplan


Whether Wirral Council will act on your views remains to be seen, but hey-ho!

Google Ads
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080334
28th Oct 2020 1:54pm
28th Oct 2020 1:54pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,721
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,721
Birkenhead
A seaside resort is doomed to failure in the long term when you get rid of the seafront promenade in the favour of having shops. Why weren't the shops built on the inland side of the road.

The leaking water pipe supplying the Fort and Lighthouse should be repaired by the Council whether it is their responsibility or not, they are supposed to be promoting tourism. Nobody is absolutely sure who is responsible for the pipe but it is affecting tourism which benefits more businesses and people than just the Fort and Lighthouse.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080346
29th Oct 2020 11:46am
29th Oct 2020 11:46am
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,742
wirral
E
Excoriator Online content
Forum Addict
Excoriator  Online Content
Forum Addict
E
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,742
wirral
I think any hope of reviving New Brighton as a holiday resort is doomed. Its existence depended on a population that basically couldn't afford to travel much or very far and that is no longer true.

People own cars, and can travel to to half the UK effortlessly. They can also afford to stay overnight and cheap air travel has extended their range to much of the world.

Far better to accept this, than to try to revive a dead past. As non-native of the town I find it deeply unattractive; in particular the large areas of treeless shrubless grass and the sea wall which blocks off all view of the sea.

It says little for the town when the most attractive feature is the supermarket. More people seem to visit that than anything else.

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080348
29th Oct 2020 1:56pm
29th Oct 2020 1:56pm
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 86
Middle Earth
F
Fidelio Online content

Member
Fidelio  Online Content

Member
F
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 86
Middle Earth
Very true Excoriator, I’ve never understood why some people rave about the dreary place.Turn off the life support.

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080352
29th Oct 2020 3:22pm
29th Oct 2020 3:22pm
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,903
Wirral
C
cools Offline
Forum Master
cools  Offline
Forum Master
C
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,903
Wirral
Great to see such positive and optimistic views , I'm being sarcastic of course!
I for one would love to see New Brighton improved and be something that the kids and adults can enjoy . I have lovely memories of it as a child and even now I find it enjoyable when I go with grandkids..it could become a great place again..
I say bring it on and carry it through .

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080353
29th Oct 2020 3:44pm
29th Oct 2020 3:44pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
granny Offline
Wiki Master
granny  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral


Build a new pier and bring the ferry boats back.

Not much scope to build more along the prom. Whoever was in planning when all that was decided needs a bomb underneath them. No vision for the future.
Not much scope for more car parking , so bring in the people via the ferry with a prom that gives various forms of entertainment. If they want a 'seaside resort' they need to think 'seaside'. That's donkey rides and candy floss, bumper cars and entertainers. Multi arts venue, local History museum, upside down house, the list is endless.
However, I thought Wirrla concil didn;t have any money ... so let's wait and see ! If I remember rightly , 20yrs ago they were covering the same initiative to re-vamp New Brighton. Unfortunately, most people don;t want to just sit and eat and drink all day !


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080356
29th Oct 2020 3:52pm
29th Oct 2020 3:52pm
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,903
Wirral
C
cools Offline
Forum Master
cools  Offline
Forum Master
C
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,903
Wirral
Completely agree with you Granny , bringing back the pier would be great. Yes let's have abit of good old fashioned fun back in the resort . What's that saying ," what goes around , comes around " ,,something like that anyway ha....

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080377
30th Oct 2020 12:07pm
30th Oct 2020 12:07pm
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,920
Wallasey
S
Salmon Online content

Forum Addict
Salmon  Online Content

Forum Addict
S
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,920
Wallasey
Sadly I am afraid Excoriator is right in what he says. The old wonderful days of pre wars New Brighton which continued into the 50s and 60s are gone and not recoverable. I remember many happy hours on the boating lake and in the two fairgronds. The vandals who started the late 60s fire that destroyed the tower and the storm which destroyed the swimming pool are two of the really defining moments in the downfall but even so cheap and easy air travel was already a big feature. We still love wandering along the prom, always a pleasant experience and lots of good stuff on the Floral. I hate to say it but we cannot recover the glory days of evey house having no vacancies signs in the front window.

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080379
30th Oct 2020 1:09pm
30th Oct 2020 1:09pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,721
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,721
Birkenhead
Virtually all events that they put on in New Brighton are very well supported, people want to got there, they just need something to do apart from shopping and getting pissed.

Road Rallies
Wirral Shows
Circuses
Giants

The crazy golf has done very well despite my scepticism. Bubbles Cafe appears to do well.

The length of the dips seems to be an ideal location to put a long zip-wire which seems to be the rage at the moment. Implicitly this would involve a tower which would be a nod to History.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080380
30th Oct 2020 1:12pm
30th Oct 2020 1:12pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
granny Offline
Wiki Master
granny  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral


I just can't agree, Salmon. Comparing New Brighton with another seaside resort which virtually hit rock bottom a few years ago, a town where I lived and worked, on the seafront, I believe it is possible .

That town has a new pier which opened last year, it has a fort, it has gardens, it has a theatre, just the same as New Brighton.

If council were so inclined, they could do so much to attract visitors. How about a road train to start with, to take people from the far end of parking along to Vale Park . Light the place up , have a Halloween Trail or a Pirates Trail/ guided walks. . What happened to the Classic Cars ? Promenade Photograph Competition, Punch and Judy (that might be a bit old hat but similar) ,Keep fit on the beach. Bank Holiday Pram race for charity. Bring back some fun . So many people have led such dull lives, they have no idea what used to be (not meaning you Salmon, more referring to those who make final decissions sitting on backsides) If a Pram Race isn't successful, no need to try it again . Have a Guy Fawkes Race next time ! What happened to the candel light parades ? Why not a New Brighton Carnival ?
We've left the EU , we don;t have to be part and parcel of their events programme any longer to get the funding, we can do this under our own steam, and make a showcase to our own culture and heritage , which in this area is unique.


Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080381
30th Oct 2020 3:05pm
30th Oct 2020 3:05pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
granny Offline
Wiki Master
granny  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
.

Attached Files land train.jpg

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080382
30th Oct 2020 3:24pm
30th Oct 2020 3:24pm
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
mikeeb Offline OP

Forum Addict
mikeeb  Offline OP

Forum Addict
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
I always wondered, why hasn't anything been built on the dips?
Do they want to leave as a flood defence or something?

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080383
30th Oct 2020 4:03pm
30th Oct 2020 4:03pm
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
granny Offline
Wiki Master
granny  Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,524
Wirral
They used to use it for the Wirral Show and other events such as the International Kite Festival but it could be utilised for so many things . Don;t give them ideas, Mikeeb.

Ice rink in the winter ? Christmas Market ? THey could easily build a wall aound the dips as protection from the weather. It wouldn't have to be very high. A dry stone wall with wire mess, would probably allow water through if it got flooded and disuade the stone thieves.

It wouldn;t have to be this high though. Thing is , Council would either have to spend some money or not spend any money. Choice is there's at the end of the day, not ours.

Where there is no vision, the people perish.. ( I actually believe we are on that merry- go- around now , unless we are going to the moon)




Attached Files cea65435caa4293623d40ea72e7bc1ab.jpg
Last edited by granny; 30th Oct 2020 4:05pm.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: mikeeb] #1080384
30th Oct 2020 4:36pm
30th Oct 2020 4:36pm
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,920
Wallasey
S
Salmon Online content

Forum Addict
Salmon  Online Content

Forum Addict
S
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,920
Wallasey
I really do hope you are right Granny.It would be great for New Brighton to be a boom town again. What seems to put the kybosh on so many events like the kite festival etc. is insurance and of course health and safety. Punch and Judy is always popular at Llandudno and attracts lots of people..

Re: New Brighton Masterplan [Re: granny] #1080385
30th Oct 2020 4:39pm
30th Oct 2020 4:39pm
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
mikeeb Offline OP

Forum Addict
mikeeb  Offline OP

Forum Addict
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,274
birkenhead
Originally Posted by granny
They used to use it for the Wirral Show and other events such as the International Kite Festival but it could be utilised for so many things . Don;t give them ideas, Mikeeb.

They will not be getting any ideas from me.
I definitely don't want anything built on them, they are fine as they are, and great for events. Shame the Wirral Show doesn't happen anymore. Why did they stop it?

Those walls you mention are 'gabion walls' and very easy on the eye, good idea Granny. wink

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
Oxton Flats
by AndyT. 23rd Nov 2020 6:17pm
Fairs Cameras - Bebington
by diggingdeeper. 23rd Nov 2020 4:08pm
car stupidity
by lincle. 23rd Nov 2020 8:46am
Liverpool Airport
by Excoriator. 22nd Nov 2020 5:42pm
car sales
by lincle. 19th Nov 2020 4:54pm
For Sale & Free
2009 Mini 1.4 First - Full JCW Bodykit
by delta6. 23rd Nov 2020 10:14am
Ps4 Glacier White 500gb
by Peter0787. 20th Nov 2020 6:34pm
CALL OF DUTY
by paul110180. 17th Nov 2020 9:44pm
Ipad 5 Mini 256gb
by Catsick. 14th Nov 2020 2:25pm
Chest Freezer
by delta6. 12th Nov 2020 6:32pm
Member Spotlight
Mark
Mark
Wirral
Posts: 21,233
Joined: November 2003
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
vicpitcher, Lilycat, AndyT, mac123, TheSock
13576 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
locomotive (78)
New Wirral Info
Oxton Flats
by AndyT. 23rd Nov 2020 6:17pm
Pontins Southport
by mikeeb. 18th Nov 2020 1:13pm
divorce
by lincle. 15th Nov 2020 10:48am
eBay Complaints
by granny. 6th Nov 2020 11:33am
Wirral’s Rights of Way Map
by mikeeb. 31st Oct 2020 11:09am
News : New Topics
Liverpool Airport
by Excoriator. 22nd Nov 2020 5:42pm
Remembrance Sunday
by mikeeb. 8th Nov 2020 9:49am
Firework attack
by lincle. 6th Nov 2020 10:12am
Furlough extended to March
by mikeeb. 5th Nov 2020 4:53pm
Second Lockdown Rules
by diggingdeeper. 5th Nov 2020 2:40pm
New Enthusiast Forums
car stupidity
by lincle. 23rd Nov 2020 8:46am
car sales
by lincle. 19th Nov 2020 4:54pm
Ban on sales of petrol and diesel cars and vans.
by mikeeb. 18th Nov 2020 10:50am
cheap kindle books
by derekdwc. 17th Nov 2020 11:06am
Puppy Mills
by granny. 17th Nov 2020 10:44am
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Tue 7:55am
Sunset Tue 4:02pm
Local Time Tue 12:09pm
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1