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Stop a second referndum. #1061266
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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061267
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Getting worried are we, Granny?

Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061271
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Its already passed the 100,000 mark so the Government will have to make a response, unfortunately it ends 1/2/2019 by which time our fate may be sealed anyway,

Just a few summaries of the data when the count was 109325

132 signatures from Birkenhead constituency.
154 signatures from Wirral South.
137 signatures from Wirral West

650 UK constituencies have signatures

1884 signatures from outside the UK
97 countries have signatures


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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061272
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With the reports about Aaron Banks it seems possible that the leave campaigners broke the rules so it seems to me that the referendum should be declared null and void.

Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061276
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I don't think it really matters what goes on from now with regard to who did what, if the result is upended, there is one thing we can be very certain of, and that will be an horrendous backlash on our streets.
Is it really worth tipping the referendum result, against those in privileged positions who wish to disrupt, and reverse for financial , personal, and ambitious reasons within the EU ?

Clegg has pushed off now. No jobs in the EU any longer for him, so he's gone to Facebook ! Cameron is looking to come back into politics... I wonder where Blair will land his cheery ass.


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Originally Posted by Excoriator
Getting worried are we, Granny?


No, not at all. However those unelected bureaucrats in Brussels might well be, as Italy looks as if it could be next.


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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061281
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I think Italy owes EU too much money, they would need a financial sponsoring country to leave.

The eastern block are getting fed up with EU becoming as authoritarian as the Soviet block was.

The EU cannot continue in its current form, it is heading to being a superstate which most countries don’t want.


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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061282
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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061289
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I don't think it really matters what goes on from now with regard to who did what...


Does this mean if I steal your telly or your car I can keep it?

If the referendum was dishonestly fought then of COURSE it should be declared null and void! It is quite p[ossible that you will win again and honestly this time so what's your problem?

Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: diggingdeeper] #1061291
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


The eastern block are getting fed up with EU becoming as authoritarian as the Soviet block was.



That has been my view for a long time. Possibly expected , considering half the countries now in the EU were part of the Soviet block at one time, (in our lifetime) therefore, many who are in a position of making decisions on behalf of the rest of us, have never really experienced true democracy at the same time our democracy seems to be slipping away due to EU rulings.

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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061294
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As it was a non-binding referendum I don't see how it has any legal status and certainly don't see how there can be prosecutions and rules concerning funding limits.


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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061312
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what i find interesting is after the Aaron Banks stitch up broke news then the next day we get the Labour anti semitism row hitting the headlines. Murky hands at work in the background and i bet TB is amongst them . I cant remember a general election when the old chestnut about campaign funding didnt arise.

Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061350
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I can see the rules for campaign funds changing, these days Labour have more money than the Conservative party.


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Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: granny] #1061377
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The eastern block are getting fed up with EU becoming as authoritarian as the Soviet block was.


No they are not!

Re: Stop a second referndum. [Re: Excoriator] #1061378
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Originally Posted by Excoriator
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The eastern block are getting fed up with EU becoming as authoritarian as the Soviet block was.


No they are not!


Just keep watching and counting the number of times Poland and the EU are in court. The courts so far have generally favoured poland's right to sovereignty which shows how aggressive and arrogant the EU has been in trying to take away Poland's sovereignty.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
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