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#1044213 - 13th Sep 2017 10:19am Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant
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I was reading about this in the Globe earlier.

Plans were submitted in July to knock down a few shops in Birkenhead town centre (opposite The John Laird Pub) for a drive through restaurant.



https://planning.wirral.gov.uk/online-ap...RA_DCAPR_101952
Reference: APP/17/00982

I don't have strong opinions on this but I thought it was pretty interesting.

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#1044214 - 13th Sep 2017 10:40am Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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Interesting. Wonder if parking will be free?

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#1044216 - 13th Sep 2017 11:32am Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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So one minute, we're accused of being 'fat Wirral'. next they plan to open a drive through restaurant with all the additives and gunge in the pre-prepared foods for microwaves ?

Is it to be called The Healthy Option ?
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#1044225 - 13th Sep 2017 2:03pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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No difference between selling junk food in a restaurent and selling it in a supermarket, no need to blame it on someone trying to run a business.
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#1044226 - 13th Sep 2017 2:17pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper
No difference between selling junk food in a restaurent and selling it in a supermarket, no need to blame it on someone trying to run a business.


I would be dead if it wasn't for junk food smile

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#1044228 - 13th Sep 2017 2:50pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Ah but Ah ! We don't have to buy junk food in a supermarket.
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#1044230 - 13th Sep 2017 3:49pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: granny]
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Originally Posted By: granny
Ah but Ah ! We don't have to buy junk food in a supermarket.


You don't have to buy junk food at a drive-through?
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#1044231 - 13th Sep 2017 3:52pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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I wouldn't shed a tear if they demolished the whole of the Pyramids. But it seems an odd place to put a drive-through.

It won't get much passing trade like, say, somewhere along the A41 might, particularly if were associated with a filling station. There is very little in Birkenhead to attract anyone there in the evenings either. Shoppers in the day generally shop on foot and there are plenty of fast food establishments and pie shops around anyway. Why choose a drive-through?

Sounds like optimism bordering on lunacy to me, but good luck to them.

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#1044232 - 13th Sep 2017 4:02pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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I think if Burger king put a drive through there they would do a whopping trade as an alternative to Maccies.

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#1044253 - 13th Sep 2017 6:55pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: Dilly]
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I think if Burger king put a drive through there they would do a whopping trade as an alternative to Maccies.


I suspect fast food depends heavily on passing trade. If the passing trade is on foot, the 'drive in' facility is not an attraction. For motorists to take advantage of it in this location, they have to make a conscious decision to drive there. I doubt many will. There is no passing traffic to speak of where it is proposed and it's not exactly a visually attractive area in which to sit in the car park to eat your grease burger either.

I've no retail experience, so could be quite wrong. Wild horses would not induce me to eat in the horrible 'food court' either, but obviously many do!

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#1044254 - 13th Sep 2017 8:21pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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Both Rock Retail Park McDonald's drive-through and Bromborough's do very well and are usually busy.

KFC have drive-throughs at Tranmere and Bromborough as well.

I prefer drive-throughs than the horrifying experience inside, the sound of an engine running is much more preferable to kids screaming and teen dramatics.
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#1044258 - 13th Sep 2017 11:55pm Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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The Maccies in Upton draws a lot of late night clientelle in the younger age bracket. Its a place they hang out and show off their flash Corsas.

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#1044259 - 14th Sep 2017 12:45am Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: fish5133]
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Originally Posted By: fish5133
The Maccies in Upton draws a lot of late night clientelle in the younger age bracket. Its a place they hang out and show off their flash Corsas.


I went there once.

I thought it was a place to show off my flash corsets smile

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#1044261 - 14th Sep 2017 1:33am Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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Forgot about Upton McD's and I've been there at night in my Corsa, quite a lot of the car crew aren't that young any more grin
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#1044264 - 14th Sep 2017 9:05am Re: Planning perm' for Bhead drive-through restaurant [Re: BlueLou]
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The important question is surely whether these clients are going to drive into the centre of Birkenhead to eat their junk food? I suspect not. Too many traffic lights and downtown Birkenhead has few if any other attractions.

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