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#1026721 - 2nd Dec 2016 11:38pm HMT Lancastria
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I have just watched Amanda Holden on 'Who Do You Think You Are' . You may not like her, but part of her story goes back to WWII and what her grandfather lived through. Extremely interesting and a terribly sad affair, that was more or less kept quiet due to the times. That part starts att approx. 36 mins into the programme and her grandfather was working at Smithdown Hospital, Liverpool before he joined the war.

I have never heard the story of HMT Lancastria before or this tragic event , and it is really harrowing when we think about what those poor souls endured against the enemy for all of us.

I am assuming you can watch it from here through the link, and its available for 28 days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b084jxgx/who-do-you-think-you-are-series-13-2-amanda-holden
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#1026725 - 3rd Dec 2016 7:51am Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Thank you for the link granny, I knew of the sinking of
HMT Lancastria but not in much detail, the Germans had a similar loss with the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff which I believe had the biggest loss of life through maritime operations during WW2.

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#1026729 - 3rd Dec 2016 9:13am Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Living here in France, my wife and I often go on holiday to a small port called Pornic just up the coast past St Nazaire. Seeing a sign for war graves we decided to visit the local cemetery and were surprised by seeing so many British graves till we realised that they were from the Lancastria. I found out later that a local woman who was not happy with the fact that little effort was being made by the authorities to retrieve the bodies, gathered together family and friends and set off with a horse and cart and retrieved the bodies from the shoreline which she listed and buried in a nearby field. The bodies were after the war reburied by the war graves commission. An interesting fact that came out of my visit was before we left the cemetery we looked in the book of condolences and saw an entry from somebody named Featherstone from the Wirral. As I had been at school with a lad called Featherstone the next time I was back on the Wirral i made some enquiries and found out it was the wife of the guy I went to school with. It's a small world.

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#1026731 - 3rd Dec 2016 9:37am Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: joney]
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Thank you for the information joney, this is what wiki is about.

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#1026736 - 3rd Dec 2016 1:03pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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That's very interesting and sad information you pass on joney completes the tragic story. As Amanda said strange more lives lost than Titanic but not known about in contrast to the Titanic. Her grandfather who survived this ended up killing himself,sad indeed. I love this programme , last week Danny Dyer who shocked everybody by being related to royalty last person in world you would think as can't say two words without swearing but there you go.

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#1026742 - 3rd Dec 2016 2:06pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: joney]
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Originally Posted By: joney

Living here in France, my wife and I often go on holiday to a small port called Pornic just up the coast past St Nazaire. Seeing a sign for war graves we decided to visit the local cemetery and were surprised by seeing so many British graves till we realised that they were from the Lancastria. I found out later that a local woman who was not happy with the fact that little effort was being made by the authorities to retrieve the bodies, gathered together family and friends and set off with a horse and cart and retrieved the bodies from the shoreline which she listed and buried in a nearby field. The bodies were after the war reburied by the war graves commission. An interesting fact that came out of my visit was before we left the cemetery we looked in the book of condolences and saw an entry from somebody named Featherstone from the Wirral. As I had been at school with a lad called Featherstone the next time I was back on the Wirral i made some enquiries and found out it was the wife of the guy I went to school with. It's a small world.


Joney, what an interesting post and how amazing to have found your particular school friend. I wonder if anyone else will see this and also have know young Featherstone, it's not a particularly common name I would have thought. Well done and thanks.

There is also quit a bit of it's History on Wikipedia and various attempts and successes to have fitting memorials to the victims.
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#1026780 - 5th Dec 2016 2:50pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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At the risk of being boring here is some more information. As i was leaving Pornic cemetery I was stopped by an old french man who asked was I English and had I been to visit the war graves. He then said that as a child he had seen the bodies along the shoreline It was him that told me the story about the woman with the horse and cart who removed them. At a later date I spotted a sign in a village a few miles away pointing to war graves and when we looked there were six or seven more graves of men from the Lancastria, if you think about it there must be many more such places along that strip of coast. In Pornic there must be best part of a hundred.

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#1026781 - 5th Dec 2016 3:14pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: joney]
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#1026782 - 5th Dec 2016 3:25pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Not boring at all Joney its good to hear these facts from the locals as sad as they are. Just read the report that Bert put up seeing all their names really brings it home.Trapped in the hull so many,the terror must have been unimaginable. Glad its been brought to everyone's attention a very sad war tragedy.

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#1026849 - 8th Dec 2016 11:15am Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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My father was aboard the Lancastria and had the good fortune to survive ,he was one of the troops being evacuated from France.After returning to blighty to recover he embarked on a ship (The Empress of Asia )visiting Halifax -Nova Scotia ,Jacksonville USA,Trinidad and Tobago,Cape Town,Bombay,before the ship was attacked and sank in Indonesian waters.He had the good fortune to survive after being in shark infested waters for 8 hours (despite being a non swimmer relying on the old mae west).
After being recovered from the water he was taken to Changi hospital (Singapore )for medical treatement.When fit he rejoined his unit taking on the Japanese force on the Malaysian penninsula,when shot in the Knee and captured following hospital treatement he spent the next three and a half years a prisoner of war on the Burma railway.When liberated at the weight of 6 stones he was cared for (in the huts)at Clatterbridge and made a good recovery,raised a family and worked till the age of 60 ,living to the age of 82.He had bouts of Malaria for many years after coming home and had suffered with a plethora of tropical diseases whilst incarcerated,indeed he was recalled to the Liverpool School of Tropical Medecine a few years before he died when it was found many prisoners and indeed my father had returned with a parasite (Strogyloides)it had been active in them all that time.I can only imagine how hard it was dealing with the physical and mental ordeal there generation suffered, they were certainly made of stout heart.

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#1026852 - 8th Dec 2016 4:59pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Oh wow Tomcat what a strong and courageous man your father was. He certainly cheated death and was a true survivor. Can't imagine the pain he went through mentally as well as physically, as you say made of strong stuff. Don't think many people these days would come through it.Thanks for telling his heroic story.

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#1026879 - 9th Dec 2016 2:59pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Great thread/posts to read. Thanks.

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#1027034 - 12th Dec 2016 10:44pm Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Absolutely amazed at these relative stories from so far back in time, plus the link Bert posted.
We really have no idea what these courageous fellows lived through. The older we become, because of the testimonies of those who had, or experienced any connections to those who suffered such atrocities , it looms and becomes so much more reality from personal accounts. Thanks for your input.
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#1038355 - 1st Jun 2017 7:58am Re: HMT Lancastria [Re: granny]
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Thanks to all above for the most interesting posts.
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