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Excoriator #1026401 26th Nov 2016 1:21pm
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Originally Posted by Excoriator
There are people keen to make a name for themselves by attacking anything new, in the knowledge that the unfamiliar is always treated with suspicion and their claims will be believed by those too idle to investigate properly and make their own minds up.

We've seen the same things with CFL lamps (They contain mercury - shock, horror!). So do ordinary fluorescents, but the opposition was only to compact ones. I have even seen opposition to LEDs on the grounds that they contain Arsenic. This is true, but in quantities measured in parts per million in the silicon as a dopant. You would have to chip open hundreds of them and swallow the silicon to get anywhere near a detectable dose, and even then it would pass through your body quite safely, being deep inside the material of the chips and would not be absorbed.

I'm sorry if my post has offended anyone. I feel strongly about wilful manipulation of people's fears, but my point stands. if you are scared of smart meters, you should be bloody terrified of mobiles, which are going to subject your head to FAR more radiation than your smart meter. And you should certainly dump your 'smart' phone. It is far more superbly equipped to spy on you and what you are up to than any box screwed to the wall under the stairs!


I agree with every word there thumbsup

Internet and media can spread disinformation around so fast even if original comments were made innocently.


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There are reams of accounts from highly credible, well-researched people, mechanics and experts in their fields about the DANGERS of radiation from mobile phones, smart-meters, telephone masts etc. These people have spent decades of their lives committed to research and have compiled credible studies to CONFIRM the notion that these things are in-fact dangerous. It annoys me when topics like this are brushed aside as 'tin-foil hat brigade stuff'

Everyone is affected differently; some people are asymptomatic, some people are highly electromagnetically sensitive.

We don't need 'smart' anything.
We should adopt a more low-tech approach to life.

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Originally Posted by davidwlinski
There are reams of accounts from highly credible, well-researched people, mechanics and experts in their fields about the DANGERS of radiation from mobile phones, smart-meters, telephone masts etc. These people have spent decades of their lives committed to research and have compiled credible studies to CONFIRM the notion that these things are in-fact dangerous. It annoys me when topics like this are brushed aside as 'tin-foil hat brigade stuff'


Of course there are dangers, that is why there are regulations to control most of these things to safe levels.

In most cases there is far more danger from the sun's radiation but its something we largely chose to ignore in this country.

Also never forget that it is in the financial interest of "professionals" to make money out of their knowledge/studies/reports, it is often what they don't say that is more important than what they do say.

If someone says that 20 people a year are likely to die because of a mobile phone mast it is meaningless, is this nationally or world-wide, is this through radiation, crashing into a mast, the mast falling or even a worker constructing the mast falling etc etc. The scope of the imparted information is often very cleverly engineered.

I would love to see a reference to a meaningful study on the dangers of radiation from a smart meter.


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The World is not perfect so we have to make informed decisions as to how best to function.

I would rather live here with technology than in a Third World Country where people die in the villages due to bacterial infection,Malaria and complications of childbirth,whilst those in the cities of Aids or air pollution.Most die before age fifty with thirty eight years an average life span.


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Originally Posted by paxvobiscum
The World is not perfect so we have to make informed decisions as to how best to function.

I would rather live here with technology than in a Third World Country where people die in the villages due to bacterial infection,Malaria and complications of childbirth,whilst those in the cities of Aids or air pollution.Most die before age fifty with thirty eight years an average life span.



Your views from a different position are true, Pax. I tend to agree, although this report linked to the study, would indicate as Davidwlinski states,i.e there is evidence of brain tumours related to mobile phones and cordless phones.

An neighbour of mine was in research with BT and he would not allow his family to use the mobile phones for calls. Texts were ok. That was about 12 years ago and I know things change but this report is more recent and it is the children who are a concern in such matters.

http://www.saferemr.com/2015/05/brain-tumor-rates-are-rising-in-us-role.html

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Cancer Research UK's statement is interesting (and the opposite of what I expected), they find no correlation between mobile phones and brain tumours from looking at a number of studies.

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