Welcome to WikiWirral, sharing is what we do best.
Forum Statistics
Posts1,027,059
Topics75,502
Members13,435
Forums65
Posts in last 24hrs11
Most Online14,906
Nov 23rd, 2019
Who's Online Now
43 registered members (alan128, 8 invisible), 1,263 guests, and243 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Social Media : Follow Us


Popular Topics(Views 7days)
New General Forums
White House UK
by casper. 3rd Jul 2020 9:37am
Portable bogs blown over
by mikeeb. 30th Jun 2020 1:02pm
To Denmark
by diggingdeeper. 21st Jun 2020 2:47pm
Nigel should be our PM
by snowhite. 16th Jun 2020 6:01pm
New Wirral History
Ron Gittins Stories ?
by DaDoRon. 2nd Jul 2020 9:59pm
Outdoor swimming pools
by mikeeb. 30th Jun 2020 4:26pm
1888-1913 map overlay
by mikeeb. 19th Jun 2020 2:04pm
Satellite images 1971-73
by mikeeb. 11th Jun 2020 5:45pm
Where in Laird St is this?
by mikeeb. 1st Jun 2020 4:19pm
Forum Tips
Photo Gallery Forums
Boaty McBoatface takes shape
The gathering storm: Mersey waterfront today
Topic Replies
hairdressers
by lincle. 5th Jul 2020 8:30pm
F1 2012 Chat Room
by diggingdeeper. 5th Jul 2020 5:16pm
Thought I was getting an ebay bargain
by _Ste_. 5th Jul 2020 2:10pm
338 New Dock Hotel (Blood Tub)
by sunnyside. 4th Jul 2020 10:22pm
live webcam from africa, a must see
by mikeeb. 4th Jul 2020 6:20pm
Ron Gittins Stories ?
by DaDoRon. 3rd Jul 2020 3:36pm
memorial stone
by mikeeb. 3rd Jul 2020 2:05pm
Buying a PUB
by mikeeb. 3rd Jul 2020 1:20pm
Outdoor swimming pools
by mikeeb. 2nd Jul 2020 5:28pm
July
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Recent Posts : What's On ?
walking group
by lincle. 18th Jun 2020 7:59pm
Previous Topic
Next Topic
Print Topic
Rate Topic
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Continental Circus berlin #1009456
12th May 2016 5:37pm
12th May 2016 5:37pm
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,231
Wirral
Mark Offline OP

Wiki Master
Mark  Offline OP

Wiki Master
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,231
Wirral
Promotion sent to wiki via email.


Allow me to introduce you to The Continental Circus

Berlin, appearing in New Brighton with a brand new production from the 17th to 22nd of May 2016.


NEW BRIGHTON

Kings Parade Circus Site. (The Dips)

Coastal Drive

CH45 0NQ

Tuesday 17th to Sunday 22nd May

Tuesday 7pm only

Wednesday to Friday 5pm & 7.45pm

Saturday 3pm & 6pm

Sunday 2pm & 5pm


We would like to offer you a 2for1 entry to the show.

Buy 2 full price adult tickets for the price of 1.
To redeem call the box-office on 01132602444 and quote the promotional code JUGGLER.
Offer not valid in conjunction with any other discount or against tickets already purchased

It would be great if you could share details of this on your forum.


My Avatar images are all from the Wirral Gallery.Click Me
Wow Wirral History is coming along Great! Wirral History

we get +200 new members a month now smile
Google Ads
Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009483
13th May 2016 12:02am
13th May 2016 12:02am
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
Thanks Mark

Looks good stuff.

"From the producers of the some of the world’s finest Circuses comes a brand new show.
Continental Circus Berlin with an amalgamation of brilliant Circus acts, music & real youthful energy, incorporating fantastic performers from all over the world

In an age where so much entertainment is unreal, made up of special effects, CGI and has a virtual reality, or is pre-recorded, multi-tracked, digitally enhanced or in some other way electronically created – the sheer reality of a live show with live music is a breath of fresh air and the feats and skills seen at Continental Circus Berlin are often so amazing that Circus-goers literally can not believe their eyes.

Housed in a climatically controlled Theatre style big top, this magical production is brimming with an international cast of breathtaking artistes, packed full of comedy, juggling, balancing, acrobatics & aerial acts – even the latest sensation the Laser Man!

This years spectacular features an unrivalled mix of genuine circus talent from every corner of the earth, and backed by a parade of good time pop & rock hits from the past four decades bringing an age-old tradition into the new millennium.

This animal free Circus is the finest show to come to town under the Continental Circus Berlin banner and this famous name has always been your guarantee of a great show, a rare treat, great fun & with something for all ages.

Continental Circus Berlin will be touring the UK for a mere 24 weeks so make certain this sure fire hit is a definite for your diary."

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice] #1009632
15th May 2016 10:00pm
15th May 2016 10:00pm
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 180
Wirral
D
DJDuck Offline
Enthusiast
DJDuck  Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 180
Wirral
Another load of foreign circus gypsies...sounds great.

We have enough gypsies in this country without inviting more over and actually paying for the privilege.

Bring back Cannon & Ball I say!

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009661
16th May 2016 7:27pm
16th May 2016 7:27pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
These people are here on a temporary basis, working , funding themselves , performing an animal free artistic show , that is not that common in this country . They are not as far as I know asking for free handouts, they aren't taking up accommodation destined for UK residents , and they dont try and force me to do acrobatics or wear skin tight bodysuits . Ive no more problem with them than Id have with a visiting foreign football team ---until any of them broke our laws.

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice] #1009669
16th May 2016 10:03pm
16th May 2016 10:03pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by venice
These people are here on a temporary basis, working , funding themselves , performing an animal free artistic show , that is not that common in this country . They are not as far as I know asking for free handouts, they aren't taking up accommodation destined for UK residents , and they dont try and force me to do acrobatics or wear skin tight bodysuits . Ive no more problem with them than Id have with a visiting foreign football team ---until any of them broke our laws.


But visiting football teams aren't in this country using our facilities for 24 weeks without paying tax.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009674
16th May 2016 11:58pm
16th May 2016 11:58pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
Well,admittedly, I suppose artistes whether they be touring circus or touring ballet, use local schools for a few weeks either side of the school holidays, if they do bring children , which would seem to make worse our shortage of school places -but have this outfit brought children? They use our roads free but thats like all other foreign drivers so why pick on them? Taxwise , under current tax rules , as artistes they are supposed to pay tax either here or in their home country - do we know they dont?
There are exceptions I know , but mainly they pay rent to a local farmer/land owner for their accommodation vans to go on and to dispose of their toilet waste,the rest of their waste goes into skips hired from local firms . They purchase their day to day needsand services from local shops, supporting the economy, and so on.

They are super fit athletes , but as regards medical care if its needed -- are you sure the Guild of circus/fairground travellers or whatever their title is doesnt have insurance arrangements for health and injury considering the nature of the performances? Do UK touring actors/entertainers have to pay tax in the country they are touring ?

As long as they dont stay in this country , and keep to our laws , Im ok with them bringing their skills here to entertain us .









Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009675
17th May 2016 3:06am
17th May 2016 3:06am
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
Yes they are supposed to pay tax in this country for money earned here but the problem is that they have the full personal allowance (currently about £11,000) even though they only work for part of the year. By roaming around different countries they pay tax in none of them.

Most Foreign workers are not entitled to a tax allowance but entertainers are. I can't see why entertainers are afforded special privileges when more essential trades (eg Surgeons, teachers) aren't.



The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009679
17th May 2016 7:43am
17th May 2016 7:43am
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 178
wallasey
D
daveybm Offline
Enthusiast
daveybm  Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 178
wallasey
Are they going to take all their advertising posters and board that are littering the borough back with them?

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: daveybm] #1009695
17th May 2016 10:35am
17th May 2016 10:35am
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
Correction- I said foreign lorries etc dont have to pay tax on our roads, well, (against EU pressure )we do impose a tarrif on them , so entertainment business vehicles would presumably be caught by that.


Originally Posted by daveybm
Are they going to take all their advertising posters and board that are littering the borough back with them?


Of course they should, but agreed , many dont which yes is wrong.I wouldnt defend that any more than Id defend left behind posters for anything else,whether they be visiting foreigners or not. Im sick of seeing left behind 'car boot' , save such n such, ban the other , and vote so n so -all left behind by local residents half the time. Yes they pay council tax etc, but removing posters is NOT what their council does anyway.

Regarding the tax situation - are we going to resent some of the best foreign entertainment from touring the country , giving non city goers an opportunity to enjoy their skills,merely because the entertainers make sure they keep under the c£11k income tax limit? Surely thats no different from anyone else avoiding paying tax , by keeping to the letter of the rules to get the best deal for themselves .

If a country's laws allow a beneficial route, then all people will take advantage of it . Its surely up to the Govt to change the relevant law to make things fairer ?
You could argue that its not fair for well off pensioners to accept a free tele licence, free bus etc , or for foreign workers to get child allowance at uk rates to send home --- but we shouldnt be shunning the recipients.

I wouldnt have wanted to miss seeing Cirque du soleil in Chester a few years ago, just because our Govt hasnt got their own act together .










Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009700
17th May 2016 12:01pm
17th May 2016 12:01pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
ps Whilst we all want the Govt to get their finger out and hammer them, who's going to deny themselves the use of Google, Uber, Mondelez (Cadburys) , Shell, Netflix etc , all of whom dont pay their fair share of tax here?

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice] #1009725
17th May 2016 8:58pm
17th May 2016 8:58pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
We are talking about individuals, google employees in this country pay their fair share of tax.

The circus acts move around so that they can earn more than £11,000 and not pay tax. This gets more absurd when their transport fees to enable this are tax deductible.

Bigging up these entertainers that they are providing such a good public service that it justifies the tax arrangements is an insult to every other occupation, especially those that are paying tax.

Yes, its the Government's fault but that is no reason to respect freeloaders that exploit these obviously unfair arrangements, it is unfair to other tax payers, the idea that foreign nationals have better tax arrangements in our country than our own citizens is disgusting.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: diggingdeeper] #1009733
17th May 2016 10:51pm
17th May 2016 10:51pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper


Bigging up these entertainers that they are providing such a good public service that it justifies the tax arrangements is an insult to every other occupation, especially those that are paying tax.



So who has said their service justifies the tax position ?

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice] #1009789
18th May 2016 5:45pm
18th May 2016 5:45pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by venice
So who has said their service justifies the tax position ?


You did, as it appeared you asked a rhetorical question.

Originally Posted by venice
Regarding the tax situation - are we going to resent some of the best foreign entertainment from touring the country , giving non city goers an opportunity to enjoy their skills,merely because the entertainers make sure they keep under the c£11k income tax limit?


They can earn a lot more than £11,000 and still pay no tax.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark] #1009795
18th May 2016 9:11pm
18th May 2016 9:11pm
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
V
venice Offline

Forum Guardian
venice  Offline

Forum Guardian
V
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,621
Wirral
I havent said I believe they SHOULD be allowed to have special tax arrangements . I said I enjoy their skills, and at least they are working for their money, and that I've no problem with them maximizing their earnings whilst its legal, by staying within certain earning limits to avoid tax . The very nature of touring means they HAVE to travel round , so obviously they are going to engineer their timings to best suit their earnings. There are tax anomalies all over the place .How many of us honestly pay a penny more tax than we legally need to? Also, our Govt has decided that the mobile arts/entertainments sector requires special tax treatment one way or another,so that they can bring 'culture' to the masses, so I suppose whilst we're in Europe, they are going to view foreign touring entertainers in a similar light.

Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice] #1009796
18th May 2016 9:56pm
18th May 2016 9:56pm
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
diggingdeeper Offline

Wiki Master
diggingdeeper  Offline

Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,501
Birkenhead
Originally Posted by venice
How many of us honestly pay a penny more tax than we legally need to?


Many (and probably most) people do, not many people check their tax calculations or bother claiming all tax deductions/credits they could.

I'll admit two things ...

I have been very harsh on the performers, it is purely the Government that is at fault.

I was two-faced calling them free loaders, I think I have only paid income tax one or two years out the previous twelve. I'll probably pay tax when I get my state pension but I doubt I will pay any before then.


The further you are down the pay scale, the more 'essential' you are when the s--- hits the fan... Sue Farbysmith 2020

Insults are engendered from vulgar minds, like toadstools from a dunghill - Charles Caleb Colton

We don't do charity in Germany, We pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Mod 

Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
hairdressers
by lincle. 5th Jul 2020 8:52am
Buying a PUB
by BultacoAstro. 3rd Jul 2020 11:24am
Ron Gittins Stories ?
by DaDoRon. 2nd Jul 2020 9:59pm
Outdoor swimming pools
by mikeeb. 30th Jun 2020 4:26pm
Possible delays to bin collections
by mikeeb. 29th Jun 2020 1:55pm
For Sale & Free
VHS TAPES FREE
by Reno37. 28th Jun 2020 2:48pm
Small woodcutting bandsaw
by gerrymoore. 26th Jun 2020 5:44pm
samsung s10e
by stumpyduck. 22nd Jun 2020 12:10pm
Motorcycle Steering lock Screws To Hold Mudguard
by BultacoAstro. 13th Jun 2020 12:12pm
Anyone selling ps2 dual shock controller?
by ultimate. 13th Jun 2020 7:49am
Member Spotlight
snowhite
snowhite
Wirral
Posts: 7,073
Joined: January 2014
Show All Member Profiles 
Newest Members
BritWaterTower, MJMason, si2k12, JH12345, Gillam_T
13435 Registered Users
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
New Wirral Info
hairdressers
by lincle. 5th Jul 2020 8:52am
Buying a PUB
by BultacoAstro. 3rd Jul 2020 11:24am
Complaint
by BultacoAstro. 25th Jun 2020 11:02am
Telephone cable repair
by vampy1977. 15th Jun 2020 11:14am
Birkenhead Retail Shops
by BultacoAstro. 12th Jun 2020 12:21pm
News : New Topics
Possible delays to bin collections
by mikeeb. 29th Jun 2020 1:55pm
New Clatterbridge Cancer Centre Liverpool
by mikeeb. 29th Jun 2020 12:19pm
Armed forces day
by cools. 27th Jun 2020 10:26am
Liver building
by cools. 26th Jun 2020 11:14pm
Bromborough McDonalds Shooting
by squirrel. 19th Jun 2020 8:42am
New Enthusiast Forums
SAE 140
by Pete_M. 27th Jun 2020 10:36pm
Let Lucy Go !
by granny. 20th Jun 2020 6:02pm
Willaston
by Erainn. 19th Jun 2020 3:48pm
Staffie missing
by lincle. 19th Jun 2020 11:13am
Spark plug gap
by madrob. 17th Jun 2020 3:34pm
Popular Topics(Views 24hrs)
Wirral Sunrise Sunset
Sunrise Mon 4:53am
Sunset Mon 9:41pm
Local Time Mon 7:37am
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1