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#1009456 - 12th May 2016 6:37pm Continental Circus berlin
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Allow me to introduce you to The Continental Circus

Berlin, appearing in New Brighton with a brand new production from the 17th to 22nd of May 2016.


NEW BRIGHTON

Kings Parade Circus Site. (The Dips)

Coastal Drive

CH45 0NQ

Tuesday 17th to Sunday 22nd May

Tuesday 7pm only

Wednesday to Friday 5pm & 7.45pm

Saturday 3pm & 6pm

Sunday 2pm & 5pm


We would like to offer you a 2for1 entry to the show.

Buy 2 full price adult tickets for the price of 1.
To redeem call the box-office on 01132602444 and quote the promotional code JUGGLER.
Offer not valid in conjunction with any other discount or against tickets already purchased

It would be great if you could share details of this on your forum.
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#1009483 - 13th May 2016 1:02am Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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Thanks Mark

Looks good stuff.

"From the producers of the some of the world’s finest Circuses comes a brand new show.
Continental Circus Berlin with an amalgamation of brilliant Circus acts, music & real youthful energy, incorporating fantastic performers from all over the world

In an age where so much entertainment is unreal, made up of special effects, CGI and has a virtual reality, or is pre-recorded, multi-tracked, digitally enhanced or in some other way electronically created – the sheer reality of a live show with live music is a breath of fresh air and the feats and skills seen at Continental Circus Berlin are often so amazing that Circus-goers literally can not believe their eyes.

Housed in a climatically controlled Theatre style big top, this magical production is brimming with an international cast of breathtaking artistes, packed full of comedy, juggling, balancing, acrobatics & aerial acts – even the latest sensation the Laser Man!

This years spectacular features an unrivalled mix of genuine circus talent from every corner of the earth, and backed by a parade of good time pop & rock hits from the past four decades bringing an age-old tradition into the new millennium.

This animal free Circus is the finest show to come to town under the Continental Circus Berlin banner and this famous name has always been your guarantee of a great show, a rare treat, great fun & with something for all ages.

Continental Circus Berlin will be touring the UK for a mere 24 weeks so make certain this sure fire hit is a definite for your diary."

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#1009632 - 15th May 2016 11:00pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice]
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Another load of foreign circus gypsies...sounds great.

We have enough gypsies in this country without inviting more over and actually paying for the privilege.

Bring back Cannon & Ball I say!

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#1009661 - 16th May 2016 8:27pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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These people are here on a temporary basis, working , funding themselves , performing an animal free artistic show , that is not that common in this country . They are not as far as I know asking for free handouts, they aren't taking up accommodation destined for UK residents , and they dont try and force me to do acrobatics or wear skin tight bodysuits . Ive no more problem with them than Id have with a visiting foreign football team ---until any of them broke our laws.

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#1009669 - 16th May 2016 11:03pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice]
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Originally Posted By: venice
These people are here on a temporary basis, working , funding themselves , performing an animal free artistic show , that is not that common in this country . They are not as far as I know asking for free handouts, they aren't taking up accommodation destined for UK residents , and they dont try and force me to do acrobatics or wear skin tight bodysuits . Ive no more problem with them than Id have with a visiting foreign football team ---until any of them broke our laws.


But visiting football teams aren't in this country using our facilities for 24 weeks without paying tax.
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#1009674 - 17th May 2016 12:58am Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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Well,admittedly, I suppose artistes whether they be touring circus or touring ballet, use local schools for a few weeks either side of the school holidays, if they do bring children , which would seem to make worse our shortage of school places -but have this outfit brought children? They use our roads free but thats like all other foreign drivers so why pick on them? Taxwise , under current tax rules , as artistes they are supposed to pay tax either here or in their home country - do we know they dont?
There are exceptions I know , but mainly they pay rent to a local farmer/land owner for their accommodation vans to go on and to dispose of their toilet waste,the rest of their waste goes into skips hired from local firms . They purchase their day to day needsand services from local shops, supporting the economy, and so on.

They are super fit athletes , but as regards medical care if its needed -- are you sure the Guild of circus/fairground travellers or whatever their title is doesnt have insurance arrangements for health and injury considering the nature of the performances? Do UK touring actors/entertainers have to pay tax in the country they are touring ?

As long as they dont stay in this country , and keep to our laws , Im ok with them bringing their skills here to entertain us .

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#1009675 - 17th May 2016 4:06am Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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Yes they are supposed to pay tax in this country for money earned here but the problem is that they have the full personal allowance (currently about £11,000) even though they only work for part of the year. By roaming around different countries they pay tax in none of them.

Most Foreign workers are not entitled to a tax allowance but entertainers are. I can't see why entertainers are afforded special privileges when more essential trades (eg Surgeons, teachers) aren't.
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#1009679 - 17th May 2016 8:43am Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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Are they going to take all their advertising posters and board that are littering the borough back with them?

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#1009695 - 17th May 2016 11:35am Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: daveybm]
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Correction- I said foreign lorries etc dont have to pay tax on our roads, well, (against EU pressure )we do impose a tarrif on them , so entertainment business vehicles would presumably be caught by that.


Originally Posted By: daveybm
Are they going to take all their advertising posters and board that are littering the borough back with them?


Of course they should, but agreed , many dont which yes is wrong.I wouldnt defend that any more than Id defend left behind posters for anything else,whether they be visiting foreigners or not. Im sick of seeing left behind 'car boot' , save such n such, ban the other , and vote so n so -all left behind by local residents half the time. Yes they pay council tax etc, but removing posters is NOT what their council does anyway.

Regarding the tax situation - are we going to resent some of the best foreign entertainment from touring the country , giving non city goers an opportunity to enjoy their skills,merely because the entertainers make sure they keep under the c£11k income tax limit? Surely thats no different from anyone else avoiding paying tax , by keeping to the letter of the rules to get the best deal for themselves .

If a country's laws allow a beneficial route, then all people will take advantage of it . Its surely up to the Govt to change the relevant law to make things fairer ?
You could argue that its not fair for well off pensioners to accept a free tele licence, free bus etc , or for foreign workers to get child allowance at uk rates to send home --- but we shouldnt be shunning the recipients.

I wouldnt have wanted to miss seeing Cirque du soleil in Chester a few years ago, just because our Govt hasnt got their own act together .










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#1009700 - 17th May 2016 1:01pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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ps Whilst we all want the Govt to get their finger out and hammer them, who's going to deny themselves the use of Google, Uber, Mondelez (Cadburys) , Shell, Netflix etc , all of whom dont pay their fair share of tax here?

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#1009725 - 17th May 2016 9:58pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice]
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We are talking about individuals, google employees in this country pay their fair share of tax.

The circus acts move around so that they can earn more than £11,000 and not pay tax. This gets more absurd when their transport fees to enable this are tax deductible.

Bigging up these entertainers that they are providing such a good public service that it justifies the tax arrangements is an insult to every other occupation, especially those that are paying tax.

Yes, its the Government's fault but that is no reason to respect freeloaders that exploit these obviously unfair arrangements, it is unfair to other tax payers, the idea that foreign nationals have better tax arrangements in our country than our own citizens is disgusting.
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#1009733 - 17th May 2016 11:51pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: diggingdeeper]
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Originally Posted By: diggingdeeper


Bigging up these entertainers that they are providing such a good public service that it justifies the tax arrangements is an insult to every other occupation, especially those that are paying tax.



So who has said their service justifies the tax position ?

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#1009789 - 18th May 2016 6:45pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice]
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Originally Posted By: venice
So who has said their service justifies the tax position ?


You did, as it appeared you asked a rhetorical question.

Originally Posted By: venice
Regarding the tax situation - are we going to resent some of the best foreign entertainment from touring the country , giving non city goers an opportunity to enjoy their skills,merely because the entertainers make sure they keep under the c£11k income tax limit?


They can earn a lot more than £11,000 and still pay no tax.
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#1009795 - 18th May 2016 10:11pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: Mark]
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I havent said I believe they SHOULD be allowed to have special tax arrangements . I said I enjoy their skills, and at least they are working for their money, and that I've no problem with them maximizing their earnings whilst its legal, by staying within certain earning limits to avoid tax . The very nature of touring means they HAVE to travel round , so obviously they are going to engineer their timings to best suit their earnings. There are tax anomalies all over the place .How many of us honestly pay a penny more tax than we legally need to? Also, our Govt has decided that the mobile arts/entertainments sector requires special tax treatment one way or another,so that they can bring 'culture' to the masses, so I suppose whilst we're in Europe, they are going to view foreign touring entertainers in a similar light.

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#1009796 - 18th May 2016 10:56pm Re: Continental Circus berlin [Re: venice]
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Originally Posted By: venice
How many of us honestly pay a penny more tax than we legally need to?


Many (and probably most) people do, not many people check their tax calculations or bother claiming all tax deductions/credits they could.

I'll admit two things ...

I have been very harsh on the performers, it is purely the Government that is at fault.

I was two-faced calling them free loaders, I think I have only paid income tax one or two years out the previous twelve. I'll probably pay tax when I get my state pension but I doubt I will pay any before then.
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