I have been meaning to put these on for a while.After being told the whereabouts of an AK-AK gunsite on the hill I trundled on down and found these names inscribed into the rock.


T.Gordon June 30 1940

Here is the second one.


J.Gordon Died 2/7/1940

I can take any one to see these names if they wish to.

I wouldnt mind seeing these names sometime dava

weird - wonder how they died?

Jonno,Not a problem mate.Will organise a time /date and place.

Yeah it is mysterious how he died.I will try and research Mr Gordon and see what comes about.

Could he be a local guy, did he die in battle, maybe hes on the Bidston war memorial?
There should be a reference in the war graves listings!!

Jonno,let me know when you want to go and see these bud.

and anyone else who would like to see them.

And anyone else who would like to.

i'd be up for that. As long as you can prove your not some kind of serial killer trying to lure my sexy body into the woods ?

You got no chance with a nickname like that.lol.I`m the 1 that is worried.lol.

Touche, well played sir.

ha ha,not a prblem anyway.Let me know when you want to go.

I`m free all this week if you would like me to show you (the way to the dark side) lol.

Yeah mate that sounds good. I will drop you a mail when i know im goin to be free.

Great stuff Doc.

me to dava lad

Not a prob Jase if we can all agree on a date and time where we can all meet up that would be better for me.Saves me running up and down the hill.These names are unique, I hav`nt even submitted them to the friends of Bidston hill yet,so you ae getting a first hand account and top priority.

yes, and i will feel safer with 3 of us !

any dates or times in mind ?

Lol.

Like I say I`m free all this week so any day is fine with me.

is it still safe 2 go up there without being attacked? all my fam are on thurs rocks

ok. lets see what jase says. am off to bed !

anytime this week for me

ok well how about tuesday 12pm>?

Weather is clear and cold. No rain, no cloud... ideal

lol

WTF?

thats fine by me were do ye want to meet

Is there another one there - namely G Gordon who died 28th June 1940.

This is most strange that 3 Gordon's died within a few days of each other BEFORE the air raids. None of them appear on War Memorial lists for the area either.

I found 2 G.Gordon and T.Gordon.

I dont know Bidston at all so you just give me a road name and i will sat nav it. Also what car your in so im not waving at strangers ... (again)

Ha.lol.Postcode Doc is CH43 7QH.Meet at the top of this Rd tmw at 12.Is that right.

at strangers (again). .That`s tickled me that.

What car ?

I will put on a trench coat, thick glasses and plastic nose. (incognito)

I won`t be in a car,don`t know what car Jase has got.I will be on foot.

Will you be the one wearing a red hanckerchief ?

dark red Mondeo mate. i will park at the top of the road. what car you in bud.


dava you want picking up on way mate

Graphite grey Mondeo, PM me your mobile mate just incase something happens.

pm sent bud

Keswick Place or Brow Road ?

Brow road.at the top.

Sound

Yeah I have looked myself and not found the name,Strange.

Yeah mate if your not going out the way,That would be great Jase.Thanks bud.

ring ye 2moz about 11am bud

sound mate.yeah.

Have found an A.J.GORDON for you mate in a book moreton patriots
any help mate?

Does it give names of any relations.Need T OR J.Gordon.

I have a theory that if this guy who died at that location,he may of been operating an AA gun.He may also of been attached to artillary and may have come from a different area than Birkenhead.If this is the case then his name will be found on a memorial in his home town and therefor this maybe why he is not on our towns list of honours.

no mate will read on mate and get back to yer!

Nice one,thanks anyway Dean.

I`m determined to find who he was.

book says that some names where add to the memoriel at moreton british legion mate where not add until 1950!

Mmmmmmmm.

i will have a look on there tommorrow if you want,i work around the corner.

Yeah that would be great mate if you could,appreciate it.Looking for mainly the name J.Gordon and any other reference to him,i.e. regt,corps or any info that I might be able to trace him with.

no probs,be back after 5pm,its almost next door to the shop i get me fags from.

Thanks a lot bud,I don`t expect you to find the name,as I explained befor I have a theory that I suspect he is not from this area,maybe not even Wirral.

Carl's Cam lists all the names on most of the memorials in Cheshire. Follow the link, then click on "-memorials" in the line starting "Photos of:".

What a great link that is,superb find mate.Thanks Uptoncx.

thought i had found something for you under A L GORDON until i saw the post from uptoncx.jeez he is good !!!

Lol.Every little bit helps mate.

I've just looked up J Gordon on the GRO death index for the 3rd qtr of 1940, there are 11 of them, none of them local:

James 71 years S.Shields
James M.D. 69 years N.Bucks
Jemima 46 years Durham N.
John 48 years Stockport
John 79 years Conway
John 74 years Birmingham
John 68 years Wolverhampton
John under 1 year Wolverhampton
John E. 65 years W.Glamorgan
John R.S. 25 years Warwick
Julia 81 years Hull

Uptoncx,I`m impressed with the length and effort you have gone to,however out of the list I think we can discount the following......


James 71 years S.Shields
James M.D. 69 years N.Bucks
John 79 years Conway
John 74 years Birmingham
John 68 years Wolverhampton
John under 1 year Wolverhampton
John E. 65 years W.Glamorgan
Julia 81 years Hull
Jemima 46 years Durham N.

This now leaves us with 2 possibilities....

John 48 years Stockport
John R.S. 25 years Warwick

It's before the air raids started ... suppose it could have been an accident of some sorts.

Maybe right but you can not discount the possiblity of bombers straffing the AA gun sites on thier way in or out of thier runs.The guy may of been hit a few weeks befor and died on that date and also like you say it could of been an accident.I suppose we will never find out.

According to some sources first Bomb landed in Wallasey on 1 May 1940 this was first bomb for the whole of Merseyside, most other sources talk about August 1940.

I think 1 may 1940 date is getting confused with 1 may 1941 the "first" day of the Blitz.

The bombers wouldn't straff, especially in areas with defences, they stayed as high as they could (at least 5000ft), too big and too slow (just over 200mph) making them an easy target.

i heard that the first bombs landed in osmaston road in prenton not wallasey.9th august 1940 according to one of the boumphrey books

My father always said that the first bomb on Merseyside fell on August 1940 in Prenton. Can't recall if he said Osmaston Road or not.

Unlike books by other authors on the Wirral, Ian Boumphrey's books are well researched and the info. within can be relied on.

osmaston is were the war memorial is ..............

That is correct and it also claimed a victim,which was a German housekeeper/cleaner.Talk about irony.

lol friendly fire eh, Sure they werent americans ?

I was given a name that's on bidston hill? Ive just got to find it by scraping moss away around a big area, get pics when find.

name is Syd pealinja
date/1811

i trust the guy that give me the name.

Thats a strange surname? Foreign? Do you know anything about this person?

no rude, think its norwegian did try goggle the name didn't get far tho.

Yer same ere. No joy :-c

i found name today in the rhododendrons gardens above the rods date is 1912

what was ye doing up there Tc.

GOING TO TESCO BUD!{tunnel check}

ya reckon that first picture of this post could be that murderer from corrie ? :S just a suggestion

SUICIDE ON BIDSTON HILL!!!!
The body of 54 yr old Thomas Jones was found slumped in bushes on Bidston Hill, a pistol by his side, police verdict - suicide.
He had come over from Canada to work with his Brother in Law, William Hughes in Liverpool. Having found no work and down on his luck he left a note requesting hs death certificate to be sent to his wife in Ontario.
He had then gone to the woods with the pistol and shot himself thru the heart!!
Sunday, 20th September 1885

There are a lot of carvings on Biddy Hill - anyone with info on them?

Try here, click here for bidston hill