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THE government has offered to broker talks between Liverpool FC and Everton FC about building a shared stadium.

Sport secretary Andy Burnham MP, a lifelong Evertonian, made the pledge to mediate discussions while visiting young footballers in the city yesterday.

He spoke out after Liverpool’s announcement of a significant delay in its stadium plans for Stanley Park and the decision to hold a time-consuming public inquiry into Everton’s relocation to Kirkby.

Both Liverpool and Everton say a shared stadium is not on their agenda.

Mr Burnham said: “Obviously the situation has changed for both clubs, but it is for them to decide what represents the best way forward.

“Whatever they decide, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport would be available to help facilitate discussions and help the clubs explore the various routes.

“Obviously it is a continually moving situation and it is not right for me to express my preference either way.”

The Leigh MP, who is originally from Newton-le-Willows and went to school in St Helens, also reiterated his strong support of Share Liverpool’s plan for Reds fans to unite and buy the Anfield club.

He said: “It is a challenge, but the long-term goal of fans who want to buy clubs is to make them democratic and not for sale.

“In my view, that is what a football club should be and I would definitely lend my support to that principle.”

Speaking at Anfield sport and community centre, Breckside Park, he praised the two clubs for becoming the first Premier League sides to collaborate in supporting the Kickz initiative.

The project gives young people in deprived areas the chance to attend three nights of sport a week at 25 specially-designated sites.

Mr Burnham added: “Two clubs of this size working together in the community is something you do not see every day.

“In the first year of Kickz, many players have been picked up by clubs and . . . that is a tangible result.”

THE leader of Sefton council said the authority was “bounced” into making a decision on Everton’s Kirkby plans.

Cllr Tony Robertson was critical of the short space of time councillors had to react to the proposal and said it was “sad” people accused Sefton of being opposed to the stadium or Kirkby’s regeneration.

He said the council had never expressed a view about Everton’s stadium and where it should be - and the issue was the linked Tesco-led shopping district, which councillors were told would have an effect on shopping areas from Aintree to Southport.

what do you think about Everton and Liverpool shareing stadium

i dont think it will work

the only thing that would stop a shared stadium from working is fans getting all whiny about it! its probabaly the best plan they are left with plus you would get all the fans that never go near a match whining like a lot of blues giving it the "ooh i dont wanna go to kirby" even though the nearest they have been to Goodison, was watching Ian play for Tranmere!

As evertonian i would have no problem sharing in fact when you look at all the hassles both clubs seem to be having which all come down to finance it seems the logical solution

I'm a Liverpool fan who thinks a groundshare would be to the detriment of both teams. I appreciate that Everton are finding it difficult to find new investment in the club, but this scheme has been dead in the water a few times... only to be revived in desperation.

You might have noticed the boardroom shenannigans at Anfield over recent seasons. The clubs was sold to a couple of american 'playas' because Moores didn't have the money to invest in a new stadium for Liverpool, which has subsequently been delayed because of the credit crunch, (and more likely through boardroom lies and turmoil).
Why would we go through all this nonsense only to abandon or plans in favour of a faceless, soulless amenity. The identity of both teams would be diluted, and I'm afraid to say more so Everton's because of their weaker financial position and lower global media profile.
The Premier league is a massive global business these days, which was set upon this path by the partisan support from each teams supporters over many, many years. Each team needs it's own 'home', and identity and traditions.

I don't wish ill upon our blue neighbours but... get your own stadium will ya.

sort of agree with that but two teams combined could get a stadium together to rival wembley. you could have a kop end used for visitors during an everton game and vice-versa but know what you mean about a clubs identity

Thats what im on about. people go on about "identity" and "tradition" when that really is not that important, just ask any Leeds fan, all that matters is competing and if both clubs get stuck in their current lodgings how are they going to compete?

Tradition went out with the terracing and that killed the atmosphere in the stadiums!

Even the current plans would still be a "soulless arena" anyway, I havent yet been in a new stadium with atmosphere, even Wembley looks like a library!

Originally Posted by Shambo

I don't wish ill upon our blue neighbours but... get your own stadium will ya.

Am I correct in thinking it was our ground in the first place

surely it's the reds that need their own

On a serious note though, not sure I'd want a shared ground. Having said that, I don't want a stadium without a soul either. As a Blue, I miss the way Goodison used to feel in the 80's let alone now.

It's a catch 22 situation. At this rate, neither team will have a stadium to play in! I suppose something has to give.

Originally Posted by Sir_longmong

Thats what im on about. people go on about "identity" and "tradition" when that really is not that important, just ask any Leeds fan, all that matters is competing and if both clubs get stuck in their current lodgings how are they going to compete?

Have a word with yourself.

What are you on about?

"Identity" and "tradition" is very important. It's kinda the reason it makes so much money... in fact it the whole basis for professional football. US versus THEM. The identity of your team. The tribalism, the partisan support, the unquestioning love of your team. It arouses passions, fills stadia, promotes itself globally, television rights, ads, sponsorship, multi millonaire wages, multi billoinaire owners and...it sells shirts.

That's not just good advertising selling those shirts.

I, with the greatest respect, don't give a flying £uck what a Leeds fan would think about anyones groundshare. Leeds fans or any others should be worrying about their own team. Their opinions don't come into it. Leeds isn't Liverpool and the comparison is insultingly laughable.

My opinion is that it'd be a disaster for both teams, for merseyside... and more so for Liverpool FC than Everton.

Paganjay I know Everton used to play at Anfield. I quite like the fact. It's a great story and a fascinating quirk in the rich footballing heritage of these local parts. Not something I'd feel embarrassed about, *try harder*

. Some people in the UAE woud pay a fortune for sporting history like that.

Had a word with myself and he backs me up!

I couldnt give one what people thought about "partisan support" and all the other romantic bollocks as long as my team where competing, I support Tranmere and would share a anew stadium with cammel lairds or birkenhead rugby club if it meant financial gain and cutting out a load of pissing about for my club!

Tranmere? You have my sympathy.

The red, white and blue teams round here might be playing the same game but Tranmere is a world away from the premiership. Liverpool and Everton are playing to a global audience.

If you'd be happy to leave Prenton Park and share a stadium then thats your look out. It doesn't relate to a Liverpool and Everton groundshare, unless maybe you'd like to share that too? Of course you would. That'd be great for your team, and I'd can be one of those 'whiney' dissenters who happens to think my team deserves it's own stadium.

"and I'd can be one of those 'whiney' dissenters"

good call

Shhh. The big boys are talking football. Not being a fan of either team, I'm at a loss as to why you think you're got a valid opinion, nevermind label people who don't agree with it as whiney.

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ah the old "he doesnt support a premier league team what does he know?" well ill have you know I have an armchair to watch match of the day on too!

Originally Posted by Shambo

Shhh. The big boys are talking football. Not being a fan of either team, I'm at a loss as to why you think you're got a valid opinion, nevermind label people who don't agree with it as whiney.

dont believe everythin gary lineker an co tell you! all this bollox bout history an tradition... iv seen people who support liverpool all of a sudden,they had jus won the champions league funnily enough!bet u go to every game eh?

hahaha. Am I not qualified to give this opinion? I was born a Liverpool supporter, my father was a supporter, grandfather, great grandfather. I don't go every game anymore, but I used to hold a season ticket and go home and away. I feel I'm entitled to express an opinion about the team I was raised to support, and your accusation that I'm some sort of glory hunting armchair fan is laughable, and shows you don't have a valid retort. If I claimed to be a fan and had never set foot in Anfield my entire life, my opinion on the matter would still count, whereas yours clearly do not.

Lets get back on topic shall we. Why the hell would a Tranmere fan call a Liverpool supporter who doesn't want to share a ground 'whiney'? Why? Are you jealous, a little bitter maybe? Perhaps you belive as a supporter of a lower league team you represent some sort of hard core common sense? That because your team isn't very succesfull that makes you a better football supporter? I suggest you restrain your idiocy and worry about your own team... let me worry about mine.

What sort of supporter thinks the traditions and identity of their team is aload of hype and bollix that should be jettisoned to save a few quid?

You've engaged your keyboard without thinking this through haven't you?

was i calling you personally a glory hunter? You've engaged your keyboard without thinking this through haven't you? where exactly does jealousy come into it? if i was saying "18 league titles and 5 european cups mean f#ck all, league 1 is where its at" that would be jealousy but im not am I? Im sticking my opinion on a shared stadium and before you get back on to all that "but you support a small club, how dare you have an opinion" it is on a public forum that is how my opinion cropped up!

glad ye getting on so well

lets not get into a battle keep it on topic guys

Originally Posted by Shambo

hahaha. Am I not qualified to give this opinion? I was born a Liverpool supporter, my father was a supporter, grandfather, great grandfather. I don't go every game anymore, but I used to hold a season ticket and go home and away. I feel I'm entitled to express an opinion about the team I was raised to support, and your accusation that I'm some sort of glory hunting armchair fan is laughable, and shows you don't have a valid retort. If I claimed to be a fan and had never set foot in Anfield my entire life, my opinion on the matter would still count, whereas yours clearly do not.

Lets get back on topic shall we. Why the hell would a Tranmere fan call a Liverpool supporter who doesn't want to share a ground 'whiney'? Why? Are you jealous, a little bitter maybe? Perhaps you belive as a supporter of a lower league team you represent some sort of hard core common sense? That because your team isn't very succesfull that makes you a better football supporter? I suggest you restrain your idiocy and worry about your own team... let me worry about mine.

What sort of supporter thinks the traditions and identity of their team is aload of hype and bollix that should be jettisoned to save a few quid?

You've engaged your keyboard without thinking this through haven't you?

typical red "we are bigger than you blah blah blah...im a proud tranmere fan whether we win or not footy is footy but at least in the lower leagues there are less fairys!!!

Originally Posted by Shambo

hahaha. Am I not qualified to give this opinion? I was born a Liverpool supporter, my father was a supporter, grandfather, great grandfather. I don't go every game anymore, but I used to hold a season ticket and go home and away. I feel I'm entitled to express an opinion about the team I was raised to support, and your accusation that I'm some sort of glory hunting armchair fan is laughable, and shows you don't have a valid retort. If I claimed to be a fan and had never set foot in Anfield my entire life, my opinion on the matter would still count, whereas yours clearly do not.

Lets get back on topic shall we. Why the hell would a Tranmere fan call a Liverpool supporter who doesn't want to share a ground 'whiney'? Why? Are you jealous, a little bitter maybe? Perhaps you belive as a supporter of a lower league team you represent some sort of hard core common sense? That because your team isn't very succesfull that makes you a better football supporter? I suggest you restrain your idiocy and worry about your own team... let me worry about mine.

What sort of supporter thinks the traditions and identity of their team is aload of hype and bollix that should be jettisoned to save a few quid?

You've engaged your keyboard without thinking this through haven't you?

CITY ARE BIGGER THAN U CITY ARE BIGGER THAN U!

Originally Posted by Sir_longmong

was i calling you personally a glory hunter? You've engaged your keyboard without thinking this through haven't you? where exactly does jealousy come into it? if i was saying "18 league titles and 5 european cups mean f#ck all, league 1 is where its at" that would be jealousy but im not am I? Im sticking my opinion on a shared stadium and before you get back on to all that "but you support a small club, how dare you have an opinion" it is on a public forum that is how my opinion cropped up!

Ok. I think I understand. Your a Tranmere fan, who tinks that Liverpool and Everton should share a super stadium in Liverpool?

No. I'm still at a bit of a loss as to where your opinion comes into it. I don't dare you. I'm not whining when I say I don't think it would be a good idea for Liverpool and Everton to share a stadium... armchair or not.

Originally Posted by corsa_dave

typical red "we are bigger than you blah blah blah...im a proud tranmere fan whether we win or not footy is footy but at least in the lower leagues there are less fairys!!!

Originally Posted by corsa_dave

CITY ARE BIGGER THAN U CITY ARE BIGGER THAN U!

OK I give up. You win.

I don't think it would be a good idea for Liverpool and Everton too share a stadium and alot of everton fans think the same way

identity and tradition love it

It probably won't matter at all what we the fans want anyway! It will be out of our hands no doubt. Not one Everton fan I know, including myself, wanted to move the ground to Kirkby yet the go ahead was given anyway.

I agree that we all need to grow in order to be competitive with the other PLC's but at what cost? Alienating the very people that make the clubs what they are!?! This isn't just an Everton and Liverpool problem, I know a few Arsenal fans that were not happy with the Emirates move but c'est la vie.

All the arguing in the world won't change a thing - the clubs will do what THEY want, or more to the point, what the Purse holders want! Sad but true.

Come on Guys Keep it above board

All opinions are welcome as this is what drives debate.

Please don't make it personal.

Cheers

Some good points have been raised.

Mark

Im more into Motorsport (well obv) But I do enjoy Football.
Sharing a stadium, it has its pros nd cons. If it did come about, Liverpool and Everton would probably become the laughing stocks of the Premiership.

I dont agree with all the crap about oh were Liverpool, youre Tranmere, youre not in Premiership so shut up... End of the day, the Premiership isnt football, its a Business. The best people have the most money, which is why every Premierhsip game Ive gone to, have bored me to hell.

Im with the opinion that football needs a BIG BIG change around. Liverpool should only have players who come from Liverpool, Manchester players from Manchester.Chelsea from a bin etc etc.
That would give a better sense of Tribality, presence name etc... Because atm, chanting Liverpool, and seeing dutch people running around, just doesnt make sense. No doubt I gonna get stick for that, but go on, lay it on me.

To watch men run around a pitch for 90 minutes trying to get a ball into a net is rubbish its all about the money and you all know it.. How on earth is it a skill to play with a ball ?? I say kill football off all together and let it rest in peace ??

So many peopla are into football and so many differing opinions, whatever gets decided, a group of people are going to end up unhappy! All im saying is, if what has happened in the past (distant, if your a blue! :r:) and rather than kirby/shared you would rather your club stay where they are, they will get left behind. I personally would like to see the reds and blues up there challenging before anyone calls me bitter!

Originally Posted by SoundLad

I say kill football off all together and let it rest in peace ??

I thought rentaclown was the resident jibberish poster!!!!

PARRY: GROUND SHARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED

Rick Parry has again ruled out a ground share with Everton and insisted Liverpool's new stadium will be built.

Speaking on Radio Five Live's Sportsweek programme this morning, the Reds Chief Executive again stressed the club's committment to a new stadium on Stanley Park, but insisted it makes no sense to press ahead with plans in the current difficult economic climate.

"Ground share is not being considered," said Parry. "With the financial markets in the turmoil as they are, any major construction project at this time is difficult, it is risky.

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