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Posted By: purfek Gibson House - 1st May 2009 9:38pm
I am not sure if anyone can help but, I am looking for more detailed photographs of Gibson House in egremont. I am trying to re build a case for preservation and English Heritage have given me twenty eight days to appeal. They do not feel it is of architectural merit, but I would tend to disagree looking at the stone work detailing, which seems very simlar to some of the buildings at port sunlight. I am trying to find out whom the architect was, I have the build date does anyone have any pictures of the internal rooms?
The plot of land may be up for sale again and it has already got planning permission so, this poor building might be doomed.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Gibson House - 1st May 2009 10:33pm
Give it another month and I am sure it will "accidentally on purpose be burnt to the ground".
Posted By: purfek Re: Gibson House - 1st May 2009 10:41pm
I know, thats the worry sigh, that and the twenty eight days i have to put a case together!
Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: Gibson House - 1st May 2009 11:33pm
no sorry smile
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Gibson House - 2nd May 2009 8:33am
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm think


bit odd snob
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 2nd May 2009 12:22pm
Mate you dont need interiour shots, its the exteriour they are interested in smile
Posted By: Sickboy Re: Gibson House - 2nd May 2009 1:07pm
Why don't you go down and take some?

I'd do it but I don't know where Gibson House is.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Gibson House - 2nd May 2009 1:35pm
Originally Posted by Sickboy
Why don't you go down and take some?

I'd do it but I don't know where Gibson House is.


Ifs on Seabank Road, between Blenheim Road and Maddock Road.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 2nd May 2009 2:01pm
I'll have a butchers when im down that way...never noticed it before...interesting
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 1:56pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
I'll have a butchers when im down that way...never noticed it before...interesting


Walk down maddock road and look at the back of it which faces liverpool.
Nice old building smile
Posted By: Wench Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 2:17pm
I've just been looking at some pictures of it and it's a stunning building!! Shame it's been left to deteriorate no
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 2:27pm
Could you upload pickys plz?
Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 2:28pm
It worse inside its all been burnt from the basement and the fire has ripped though the first and second floors


not a very safe place to be by at all

and its also full on asbestos floating around in and out of the building smile thumbsup
Posted By: Wench Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 2:32pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Could you upload pickys plz?


They are here honey smile Clicky for Rude lol

Robbo - that's even more of a shame then!! Why the fook does our lovely council allow this to happen!?! We're fast losing ALL our heritage and it's not right! somad
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 3:57pm
Originally Posted by PaganJay
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Could you upload pickys plz?


They are here honey smile Clicky for Rude lol Noooo! Of course, i know that building. Majestic looking place, front and back! I often resist going in the grounds for a nosey but too scaredy on me own. I recall the u.e team doing a post on this place-in particular i remember the words 'guard dog' and 'asbestos' eek!

Robbo - that's even more of a shame then!! Why the fook does our lovely council allow this to happen!?! We're fast losing ALL our heritage and it's not right! somad

Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 4:00pm
Er...me post has gone funny. Its violated anuva one! Double eek!!
Posted By: UrbanEx2U Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 6:51pm
few pix i have smile




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Posted By: Peachy Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 6:56pm
How come they don't change them into apartments or something?
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 6:59pm
Thats what i think peachy pud! Believe police used to train there?!
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 7:00pm
yep thats right smile
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 7:00pm
planning has been granted for apartments i think?
Posted By: purfek Re: Gibson House - 3rd May 2009 8:38pm
Ive been down over the weekend and taken some more photographs would have been nice to have been able to have some internal photos as well. Next week I will put a case togther and submit it to the secretary of state, it was last refused in 2005 (listed buildings concent). The design seems to echo some of the red brick buildings of port sunlight.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 4th May 2009 1:24pm
I'm rooting for you, mate! Hope your succesful
Posted By: purfek Re: Gibson House - 4th May 2009 3:47pm
thanks all,
Posted By: BlueLou Re: Gibson House - 16th May 2009 7:21pm
Some more pictures on the Wirral thread here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=36097952&postcount=1438

They want to build 34 apartments apparently:

http://www.wirral.gov.uk/Minute/Public/PLG20076602map_25912.pdf
Posted By: purfek Re: Gibson House - 16th May 2009 8:04pm
The application for reconsideration has gone in to the department of culture media and sport (lol) they are who I had to appeal to with regard to its reconsideration regarding its listing.
The application regarding the apartments they will be constructed in the grounds in front of gibson house (the rear of the building)extract from a private email from a member of the council to me. >the owners, Nautilus UK had had in tracing the ancestors of the original owners to ask permission for non seafaring people to live there. < The council have also informed Nautilus UK, that I have re submitted an appeal! which I wasnt too pleased about.
I still have not been able to trace the architect of this building some of the history seemns patch, so patchy even nautilus appear to be struggling with it.
so, does anyone know anything about the ancestors? Nautilus do not?
their head office is in Mariners Park just across the road from Gibson House a contact name of Danny Kenny was given to me regarding correspondence.
Posted By: purfek Re: Gibson House - 3rd Jun 2009 11:51am
No further progress not even an acknowledgement from the department of media and sport. It does make you wonder? anyway Labour will hopefully be out so, who knows.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 23rd Feb 2010 4:38pm
Walked past about an hour ago. Two men in the grounds-lot of banging noise, cudnt see what they doing. Googled 'name on van'- numast- a maritime company. Hmmm?
Ohhh! Googled again-they own it. Doh! Sorry
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 23rd Feb 2010 5:02pm
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Two men in the grounds-lot of banging noise


They are probably just sealing up some of the human-sized mouse-holes that keep on appearing wink
Posted By: paranoidballoon Re: Gibson House - 23rd Feb 2010 5:05pm
there must be a restrictive covenant on the place.The deeds hold the answer to why they needed to find the ancestors.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 23rd Feb 2010 5:21pm
Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
Two men in the grounds-lot of banging noise


They are probably just sealing up some of the human-sized mouse-holes that keep on appearing wink
hahaha wink
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 26th Dec 2014 10:12pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

A council notice has appeared on the gates of the Mariners home...Gibson House & Gibson lodge are due to be demolished on 1st Feb 2015. I think we all knew it was going to happen, now we know when.

From Wallasey Gossip/ Facebook. frown
Posted By: rocks Re: Gibson House - 26th Dec 2014 10:32pm
glad we got in when we did!
Posted By: snowhite Re: Gibson House - 26th Dec 2014 10:48pm
Just gossip.need facts.
History wiped out again.why not protest about Gibson house.
Is it grade listed?

Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 26th Dec 2014 11:27pm
Originally Posted by rocks
glad we got in when we did!
Ditto. Phew!!!!
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 26th Dec 2014 11:28pm
Originally Posted by snowhite
Just gossip.need facts.

google
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 27th Dec 2014 4:36pm
http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/D...NAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=95020


See screening letter. Objections can be registered online.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 27th Dec 2014 5:24pm
http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/D...p;hasreference=no&TheSystemkey=95020

Direct link to register opposition.
Posted By: snowhite Re: Gibson House - 27th Dec 2014 11:13pm
Done.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 29th Jan 2015 5:07pm
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petiti...acebook-share-button&time=1422488243

petition to save Gibson House
Posted By: dustymclean Re: Gibson House - 29th Jan 2015 6:21pm
Please read the facts.I know this is a beautiful building.It was built in another time when things were harder than now and from what I can make out,an ordinary sailor would be lucky to have licked the windows of the place.I know people who have and do live at mariners at present.I would urge whoever is the lead on this petition to get in touch with the organisation and if they have given it their best shot,do not take them on a costly journey which will result in less funds for the good work they do for displaced and distressed seamen.
Posted By: dustymclean Re: Gibson House - 29th Jan 2015 8:02pm
Gibson House: a statement from www.nautiluswelfarefund
Nautilus Welfare Fund
In January 2015 some concerns were raised on social media about the future of Gibson House. Nautilus recognises and appreciates these, but it is important to set the record straight and correct some of the misleading statements which have been made about the building.
It should be noted that it is the Nautilus Welfare Fund - a
separate charity with with its own trust deed operated in accordance with the charity commission requirements - that is responsible for Gibson House and not Nautilus the union per se.
The proposal for the demolition of Gibson House has been made reluctantly.It is not an easy option and it is not a cheap option. We have worked long and hard to seek a viable future for the building. Over the last decade we have entered into public and private sector partnerships to explore redevelopment proposals and to produce a conversion plan. However, factors such as the substantial structural challenges presented by the building mean that none of these plans proved to be viable. No one else has produced a proposal or a bid for the building which would secure its future in its current form.
The condition of the building - which has suffered from vandalism and environmental damage-is such that it requires extensive work, not minor remedial repairs. It presents serious risks - including the presence of asbestos - which demand good management and specialist work.
We strive to provide high quality care and welfare services for former seafarers and their dependants .Over the past twenty years we have made significant investment in state-of- the-art facilities including new residential and specialist care facilities and further developments are planned to ensure that we continue to meet projected needs over the decades ahead.These facilities are designed to reflect the results of research into changing demands for welfare services and it is not possible to deliver such services in the 21st century in a building that was constructed shortly after the 19th century
It is also important to state that the Nautilus Welfare Fund is an independent charity administering the services at Mariners Park.As a charity, the Fund has a responsibility to use its resources in the most beneficial for those it cares for. Sadly, it has been impossible to find a way in which those resources can be used to deliver a viable future for Gibson House.

This was singed off by Mike Jess The secretary Nautilus Welfare Fund
Any mistakes are mine because I could not upload the original with my previous post. You can read original at www.nautiluswelfarefund.
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 29th Jan 2015 8:30pm
Pics of inside from 2013

https://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/793118/1.html
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Gibson House - 7th Feb 2015 12:54pm
http://www.wirral.gov.uk/planning/D...t.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=95182

Demolition plans are in. frown
Posted By: TRANCENTRAL Re: Gibson House - 4th Mar 2015 3:20pm
Update http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/wirral-council-delays-decision-demolition-8763251
Posted By: CVCVCV Re: Gibson House - 4th Mar 2015 3:42pm
I think this is good news??? - let's hope so, anyway!
Fingers crossed...
Posted By: TRANCENTRAL Re: Gibson House - 12th Mar 2015 5:21am
update (sad news) http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/campaigners-hopes-dashed-english-heritage-8822278
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 12th Mar 2015 2:08pm
I lived directly opposite this building when I grew up.
It used to be an amazing looking place and was always clean and tidy, very respectful looking and maintained well.
I often wonder what happened and why the tenants moved out?
Be sad to see it gone for cardboard flats frown
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Gibson House - 12th Mar 2015 3:44pm
Apologies if its already been posted, this is from Nooks and Corners in Private Eye:

Quote
"Andrew Gibson House, overlooking the Mersey at Wallasey, stands empty and forlorn, and under threat of demolition. A large and substantial building of red brick and stone, it was opened in 1906 as a sanctuary for the widows of old sailors and of men lost at sea. This charitable institution was paid for by the son of Andrew Gibson, a wealthy Liverpool cotton merchant, and it stands in Mariners’ Park in Egremont, first opened in 1882. This was a garden village, a sort of Port Sunlight, intended as a home for friendless, aged and incapacitated mariners… [But] this legacy has been ill-treated by the heirs to this charitable trust. Many of the cottages and other buildings in Mariners’ Park have gone and the owners of Andrew Gibson House, the merchant navy union Nautilus (formerly NUMAST), now want to demolish it…”


http://www.private-eye.co.uk/sections.php?section_link=columnists
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 23rd May 2015 8:34am
The gates where open on this place last week.

Does anybody know when work is commencing?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 17th Nov 2017 7:09pm
New plans going in for Gibson House early next year and work is planned to start spring 2018.

SOURCE
Posted By: snowhite Re: Gibson House - 17th Nov 2017 7:11pm
Great news. It's about time something was done about this building


Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 14th Aug 2018 7:59pm
A bit behind schedule but planning permission has gone in to convert Gibson House into 34 apartments and create othe houses and apartment blocks.

SOURCE
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 23rd Oct 2018 11:59am
The developers have achieved the 40% forward sales of apartments in Gibson house so work should start very soon. The land on the seaward side is going to have three and four storey apartment blocks built on it which isn't ideal but if it saves Gibson house that is the price that has to be paid, it had been earmarked for demolition.

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Posted By: casper Re: Gibson House - 25th Oct 2018 8:46am
I used to play with one of the caretakers sons back in the 50's they lived in the little house at the side.
Posted By: granny Re: Gibson House - 25th Oct 2018 9:08am

Funny where memories take us Casper. All the stuff catalogued in our brains.
A great aunt of mine ended up there. I visited her when expecting my first child and I don't think she was very happy. I can't remember much about the inside of the building but she didn't stay there for very long and moved on, to be nearer some other relatives.
Always a sad thought when someone goes into a home, they know it's God's little waiting room but no one ever mentions it. All arranged behind closed doors and the disposal of the living follows.
There should be plenty of ghosts in there.
Posted By: casper Re: Gibson House - 25th Oct 2018 7:40pm
Originally Posted by granny

Funny where memories take us Casper. All the stuff catalogued in our brains.
A great aunt of mine ended up there. I visited her when expecting my first child and I don't think she was very happy. I can't remember much about the inside of the building but she didn't stay there for very long and moved on, to be nearer some other relatives.
Always a sad thought when someone goes into a home, they know it's God's little waiting room but no one ever mentions it. All arranged behind closed doors and the disposal of the living follows.
There should be plenty of ghosts in there.


Funny enough they where happy times granny, it always seemed to be summer and we were lucky enough to live near to the beach, you could hear the music echoing from the fairground in New Brighton, taking pop bottles back to the shop for the deposit, then just like the movie stand by me with our butties we would be off to the fair or to Joytime in Vale Park, or roller skating on the prom or fishing, so much the kids of today have missed out on.
Posted By: granny Re: Gibson House - 26th Oct 2018 6:43pm

Happy times indeed, Casper. We also seemed to play out all summer, but not in the vicinity you talk about. Freedom ! Thinking back and comparing to today, they were special times which cost nothing and now, in most cases, never to be repeated.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 27th Oct 2018 2:16pm
Originally Posted by granny

Happy times indeed, Casper. We also seemed to play out all summer, but not in the vicinity you talk about. Freedom ! Thinking back and comparing to today, they were special times which cost nothing and now, in most cases, never to be repeated.


Yes, the playground of today is the internet which is a much more dangerous place, mental damage is much harder to control and fix than the odd bit of skin being grazed off.
Posted By: _Ste_ Re: Gibson House - 5th Nov 2020 10:50am
They have begun work on the property now for the conversion.
Posted By: Gibbo Re: Gibson House - 9th Nov 2020 10:36am
http://gibsonparkdevelopment.com/
Posted By: karl1972 Re: Gibson House - 8th Dec 2020 3:28am
Rode past it yesterday and was thinking that development is to be completed in 8 months,wow must have a lot of builders.
I highly doubt it but we shall see.
Posted By: mikeeb Re: Gibson House - 22nd Sep 2021 12:53pm
Great news, looks like this is a success.
Andrew Gibson House have confirmed the sale of all 35 apartments now occupying the building.

https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/...bson-house-restoration-nears-completion/
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Gibson House - 23rd Sep 2021 4:28pm
I've been taking a few snaps through some of its progression, it looks amazing.

Well done to all that have been involved.
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