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Posted By: Kwalker5 Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 9:09pm
I witnessed a horrific attack on a German Shepherd this evening in Mersey Park. A huge white dog ran over and basically tried to kill him, causing bad injuries which included, his ear torn, nose was practically bitten off and his eye has been puncurted. It was the worst thing i have ever seen. I have phoned RSPCA, police and the dog patrol and was basically fobbed off. Please be aware the dog has been seen a number of times in this park by other dog walkers who witnessed this attack.
Posted By: rocks Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 9:41pm
how awful for the dog, owner and people like yourself to witness it, this is one of the reasons id never have another dog theres too many out of control dogs/owners on the streets now
Posted By: dave_h Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 9:43pm
fook sake why not just bring out a fooking license to have a dog, there leathel weapons like fooking shotgun and rifles, they need the same vetting
Posted By: kevinhit Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 10:05pm

Poor dog, and awful for the witnesses. Hope this dog is found soon. somad
Posted By: littlestan Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 10:18pm
Was the injured dog with his owners ? Did he get taken to the vets just after ?
What time about did this happen ?
Posted By: Kwalker5 Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 10:32pm
Yeah the injured dog was with his owners and i have been assured that the dog will be taken to the vets asap to be treated. It was approx 6.30pm.
Posted By: madrob Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 10:50pm
i have a german shepherd female hope your doggy will be ok so sad
Posted By: lansyp Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 11:00pm
makes me laugh this ,i also have a german shepherd and the amount of times she has been attacked you wouldnt believe .thankfully non have been this violent ,but people think its alright for there dogs to run up to mine barking and snarling ,but if our marley does it they scream and shout .hope the arse hole gets caught and the attacking dog gets caught and put down and i do hope that the alsation make a full recovery .
Posted By: Capt_America Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 18th Jul 2012 11:14pm
Originally Posted by lansyp
makes me laugh this ,i also have a german shepherd and the amount of times she has been attacked you wouldnt believe .thankfully non have been this violent ,but people think its alright for there dogs to run up to mine barking and snarling ,but if our marley does it they scream and shout .hope the arse hole gets caught and the attacking dog gets caught and put down and i do hope that the alsation make a full recovery .


withthat
Posted By: TheDr Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 12:20am
My dog doesn't like other dogs, I knew this when I got him and although it wasn't a problem I hoped I could train it out of him.
With people, absolutely fine, you can do anything to him, just other dogs.
After several months I can now make him sit and wait as other dogs pass by, his is never off the lead/harness and has a bright orange collar with NO DOGS written all the way round it.
A few weeks ago in the park the typical status symbol was being walked (off the lead) and started to run towards mine, I shouted them to call him back but they just ignored me.
Theirs ran up, and started snapping at mine, who promptly bit him. They took notice then, screaming I was going to get sued and my dog was dangerous, that their dog was worth hundreds/thousands etc etc

To me it's simple, all dogs are licenced, all dogs are chipped, police/dog wardens can scan a dog at any time and if it's details aren't up to date it's an instant fine and confiscation of the dog until they are.

For responsible owners this won't effect them in the slightest, for the irresponsible ones it'll be a wake up call.......and they'll always have ID with them......their dog.
Posted By: Dilly Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 6:12am
Originally Posted by TheDr
My dog doesn't like other dogs, I knew this when I got him and although it wasn't a problem I hoped I could train it out of him.
With people, absolutely fine, you can do anything to him, just other dogs.
After several months I can now make him sit and wait as other dogs pass by, his is never off the lead/harness and has a bright orange collar with NO DOGS written all the way round it.
A few weeks ago in the park the typical status symbol was being walked (off the lead) and started to run towards mine, I shouted them to call him back but they just ignored me.
Theirs ran up, and started snapping at mine, who promptly bit him. They took notice then, screaming I was going to get sued and my dog was dangerous, that their dog was worth hundreds/thousands etc etc
To me it's simple, all dogs are licenced, all dogs are chipped, police/dog wardens can scan a dog at any time and if it's details aren't up to date it's an instant fine and confiscation of the dog until they are.

For responsible owners this won't effect them in the slightest, for the irresponsible ones it'll be a wake up call.......and they'll always have ID with them......their dog.
it is a shame that there are people who have dogs but dont take control of them, more responsible owners as your self are a credit to pet owners.
Posted By: alann Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 7:13am
Come across loads of owners like this, usually fu**wits with status symbal dogs, they can afford the dogs but don't buy leads or collars, and if the dog doesn't do what the want it gets hit/kicked, all owners should be vetted. I was out with my GSD, she was on a lead, a pit / staffie ran up to her and started snapping had words with fu**wit his reply " its only a puppy", not a lead in sight.....
Posted By: starakita Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 1:24pm
Originally Posted by TheDr
My dog doesn't like other dogs, I knew this when I got him and although it wasn't a problem I hoped I could train it out of him.
With people, absolutely fine, you can do anything to him, just other dogs.
After several months I can now make him sit and wait as other dogs pass by, his is never off the lead/harness and has a bright orange collar with NO DOGS written all the way round it.
A few weeks ago in the park the typical status symbol was being walked (off the lead) and started to run towards mine, I shouted them to call him back but they just ignored me.
Theirs ran up, and started snapping at mine, who promptly bit him. They took notice then, screaming I was going to get sued and my dog was dangerous, that their dog was worth hundreds/thousands etc etc

To me it's simple, all dogs are licenced, all dogs are chipped, police/dog wardens can scan a dog at any time and if it's details aren't up to date it's an instant fine and confiscation of the dog until they are.

For responsible owners this won't effect them in the slightest, for the irresponsible ones it'll be a wake up call.......and they'll always have ID with them......their dog.
I agree same thing happens with Misty took time to get her trained after being in kennels for so long & I do the same thing make her stand still till the other dog has passed.She only gets off the lead on the beach when theres no other dogs around
Posted By: Katryn Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 5:15pm
Originally Posted by Kwalker5
I witnessed a horrific attack on a German Shepherd this evening in Mersey Park. A huge white dog ran over and basically tried to kill him, causing bad injuries which included, his ear torn, nose was practically bitten off and his eye has been puncurted. It was the worst thing i have ever seen. I have phoned RSPCA, police and the dog patrol and was basically fobbed off. Please be aware the dog has been seen a number of times in this park by other dog walkers who witnessed this attack.


did you get a description of the owner of the white dog?
what kind of dog was it?
Posted By: keving Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 5:50pm
Originally Posted by TheDr
My dog doesn't like other dogs, I knew this when I got him and although it wasn't a problem I hoped I could train it out of him.
With people, absolutely fine, you can do anything to him, just other dogs.
After several months I can now make him sit and wait as other dogs pass by, his is never off the lead/harness and has a bright orange collar with NO DOGS written all the way round it.
A few weeks ago in the park the typical status symbol was being walked (off the lead) and started to run towards mine, I shouted them to call him back but they just ignored me.
Theirs ran up, and started snapping at mine, who promptly bit him. They took notice then, screaming I was going to get sued and my dog was dangerous, that their dog was worth hundreds/thousands etc etc

To me it's simple, all dogs are licenced, all dogs are chipped, police/dog wardens can scan a dog at any time and if it's details aren't up to date it's an instant fine and confiscation of the dog until they are.

For responsible owners this won't effect them in the slightest, for the irresponsible ones it'll be a wake up call.......and they'll always have ID with them......their dog.


Really I think you should muzzle your dog if it's taken to public places where friendly dogs are let off the leads. Many friend;y dogs run up to other dogs, it's a social thing and some times before the owner has chance to stop them, or they could be a puppy still learning to obey...
I understand it's not your fault that your dog doesn't like others and you have tried to train it out of him/her. But until you are successful then a muzzle would help matters and stop some of your worry when other dogs approach.
Posted By: chipbutty Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 19th Jul 2012 8:58pm
OMG!! only just seen this! poor dog! i often take my kids mersey park & the amount of dogs of leads in the field with the play area in is unbelievable! just hope the owner of the white dog will make sure that it has a muzzle & a lead on next time!!
Posted By: tedmus Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 7:09am
Originally Posted by keving

Really I think you should muzzle your dog if it's taken to public places where friendly dogs are let off the leads. Many friend;y dogs run up to other dogs, it's a social thing and some times before the owner has chance to stop them, or they could be a puppy still learning to obey...
I understand it's not your fault that your dog doesn't like others and you have tried to train it out of him/her. But until you are successful then a muzzle would help matters and stop some of your worry when other dogs approach.

Sorry but I disagree with this, his dog is on a lead and therefore he is in control of his dog, you can't always train a dog out of being reactive like that, especially when on the lead. If somebody else can't trust their dog not to run up to other dogs when offlead then they shouldn't be offlead around other dogs, simple as. I have two dogs and one of them I know will run up to other dogs if they are close enough when he's offlead, I don't know if that dog is friendly or reactive or even scared of other dogs so back on the lead he goes. On the flip side I also know that he can be reactive when he's on his lead sometimes so it can be extremely annoying when some unthinking dog owner lets their dog come bounding over to mine whilst they just stand there watching, lamely shouting the dogs name which it invariably wont respond to, instead of coming and retrieving their dog!
Posted By: BandyCoot Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 1:37pm
All dogs should be on a lead when out, saves the bickering. Anything off a lead is a stray and should be in the dog pound, which is where chip and pin would come in handy. Penalties should be used to discourage feckless owners, which would pay for wardens.
Posted By: queenie Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 5:30pm
Any update on how the poor gsd is doing?
Posted By: Kwalker5 Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 5:48pm
Have been informed he is on the mend,a bit battered and bruised but doing ok
Posted By: rocks Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 6:04pm
lets hope he mentally gets through it too as when my dog was attacked she never enjoyed walking in the same place it happened ever again
Posted By: sam_w Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 9:36pm
Sorry to hear about the dog being attacked, my young puppy was attacked in B'Head park and it changed him from then on. Just hope the injured dog has a fast and full recovery.

My parents always taught me a golden rule when walking the dogs that i have taught my misses since adopting the puppy:

If there dog is on his/hers lead then ours should be.
Posted By: lansyp Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 9:52pm
i take my dog to storton woods ,she is never on the lead as she needs a bit of freedom to run around . the good point of storton is everybody gets to know each other and there dogs so dont worry about letting them off there leads .its only when you come across dicks who have no control over there dogs that you have trouble
Posted By: Zubee Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 10:05pm
I'm an animal lover but I think the answer to this is to have ALL dogs muzzled whether on or off the lead when they're out in public, including any place they can come into contact with the public i.e. front gardens/postmen etc. I know it's a tad drastic but then at least the worst that could happen is somebody getting knocked off their feet by a big dog or another animal/person being scratched and no severe injuries could be sustained by owners trying to intervene.
Posted By: sam_w Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 10:14pm
Originally Posted by lansyp
i take my dog to storton woods ,she is never on the lead as she needs a bit of freedom to run around . the good point of storton is everybody gets to know each other and there dogs so dont worry about letting them off there leads .its only when you come across dicks who have no control over there dogs that you have trouble


I think storton woods is a really good place to walk the dogs, if only it was a few miles longer smile otherwise im walking around it 2/3 times sometimes frown

Originally Posted by Zubee
I'm an animal lover but I think the answer to this is to have ALL dogs muzzled whether on or off the lead when they're out in public, including any place they can come into contact with the public i.e. front gardens/postmen etc. I know it's a tad drastic but then at least the worst that could happen is somebody getting knocked off their feet by a big dog or another animal/person being scratched and no severe injuries could be sustained by owners trying to intervene.


I think thats a bit over the top, maybe lessons for owners would be a better alternative. My dog (harley) likes nothing more than running though muddy puddles with his mouth wide open catching the water and bits of grass/plants smile
Posted By: Zubee Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 20th Jul 2012 10:25pm
Yes I totally agree that it's over the top for responsible dog owners. BUT if it stops the k**bheads being able to use them as weapons and also stops other dogs and people from being injured then surely it's a small price to pay for the few hours they're being walked?
Posted By: pegsgirl Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 22nd Jul 2012 1:10pm
Hope the German Shepard has made a full recovery, i take my dog to Victoria Park, and lately there has been a white Boxer of its lead with 2 lads, that dog pounds across the park as soon at it sees another dog, the lads just laugh think its a huge joke, my dog is petrified of other dogs and that's because some idiot had their dog roaming without a lead it pounded on my dog and pined her down, my dog was screaming with fear and was on her lead, since then she is a bag of nerves when i take her out, i find the best place to allow her to run 'safely' is walker park in prenton, she and i feel safe there. I agree with Storeton woods it is a nice place to walk them however its me the owner who feels vulnerable walking there on my own. I love my dog so much and take her out everyday, clean up after, have her chipped etc etc, i think i am a responsible dog owner, however god forbid if and when anything happens to her i will not get another one because of all the D*** heads out there with their status dogs, who think its a big joke to watch an Innocent dog and owner be scared stiff or even worse attacked/killed by them. Oh and by the way i do believe you reap what you so, dogs arent born dangerous they are bred dangerous.
Posted By: ludwigvan Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 22nd Jul 2012 1:40pm
Hi pegsgirl,please don't let the horrible, small minority put you off getting another dog when you inevitably lose your little girl hopefully many years from now,you must know how much you both benefit from each others company.I assume that you are a lady and therefore would not like to carry a large piece of hickory to defend your dog and yourself (works for me),but what about a home made pepper spray?All you need is chilli powder,water and an aerosol spray,if this is sprayed into the aggressive dog (or idiots) face it should do the trick. By the way I agree with you about Walker park,I'm there twice a day with my girls.I wish you many happy and peaceful walks together.
Posted By: pegsgirl Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 22nd Jul 2012 3:53pm
Ah thank you Ludwigvan, kind comments, I don't think i would carry anything to defend myself, and yes i am a lady but hey i may consider the spray!! is it legal?? I just think that it spoils the pleasure of walking my dog when i am constantly looking over my shoulder to see if there are 'mad dogs or people' around. I love walker park my little dog and i have just come back, she can run and play with no fear for both of us. I love her company and take her on holiday with me, she is part of the family, just the sado's spoil your fun.
Posted By: dave_h Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 23rd Jul 2012 8:52am
Originally Posted by lansyp
i take my dog to storton woods ,she is never on the lead as she needs a bit of freedom to run around . the good point of storton is everybody gets to know each other and there dogs so dont worry about letting them off there leads .its only when you come across dicks who have no control over there dogs that you have trouble


its not a dog only area though some people like me walk my littles ones through there and irrespective if you think your dog is nice, i dont know that and i really get pissed off with dogs that are not next to there owners coming up to my kids. if there with there owners fine, they can judge the behaviour and i can respond but those that are givern freedom is irresponsible
Posted By: Spica Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 23rd Jul 2012 4:48pm
I have a male GSD, while he has no problem with bitches he can be a bit narky with other male dogs, so he's kept on the lead if there is a remote chance other dogs are nearby, he is chipped.
Some of the suggestions are a bit over the top such as muzzling in public all the time, how can a muzzled dog play fetch?.
I would suggest a chav test for dog owners, we can all recognise chavs when we see them. If you fail a chav test you should only be allowed a chihuahua or similar toy breed, but absolutely no bull terriers for chavs.
Posted By: sam_w Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 23rd Jul 2012 6:18pm
Originally Posted by Spica
I have a male GSD, while he has no problem with bitches he can be a bit narky with other male dogs, so he's kept on the lead if there is a remote chance other dogs are nearby, he is chipped.
Some of the suggestions are a bit over the top such as muzzling in public all the time, how can a muzzled dog play fetch?.
I would suggest a chav test for dog owners, we can all recognise chavs when we see them. If you fail a chav test you should only be allowed a chihuahua or similar toy breed, but absolutely no bull terriers for chavs.


That depends on the age of the assor doing the 'Chav' test, some people believe anyone wearing a hooded jacket or tracksuit pants (I wear them while walking in muddy areas)
I dont think there is a correct solution to the control of so called 'dangerous' dogs possibly introducing compulsory training and then onto licensing. But that comes down to money.
Posted By: Capt_America Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 23rd Jul 2012 6:34pm
Originally Posted by Spica
"absolutely no bull terriers for chavs"


I don't think it matters about your age Sam, we've all seen them. Unless you are out walking you Bull or Pit type something which is wearing a harness but is not attached to you by a lead and you are trying to walk like your dog then I don't think you have much to worry about.
Posted By: pegsgirl Re: Dog Attack, Mersey Park - 24th Jul 2012 5:27pm
I must be a 'Chav' then i wear a hooded fleece jacket to keep me warm and occasionally wear track suit bottoms, i also have a small toy type dog!!
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