hi finally got permission off the parents to put a bigger engine in and i am lookin at a 1.4 or 1.6 cvh wat u guys think but i am not sure wat work is goin to need doin to allow it to work will the engines just slot rite in if not any ideas wat work needs doin ???
thx for the help!!
ok i'm not personally an expert on engines etc so cant help there, but have you looked at how much you could sell your car for and buy one with a bigger engine? Probly saves a lot of hassle and that and u cud get like an old 1.6 XR2 fezzer, ther sweet as!
A CVH should drop straight in
Unlike the Zetec lumps theres no need to modify looms or fit an ECU etc as they run on carbs. Should just be a case of changing Engine, gearbox, exhaust, driveshafts, brakes and struts.
Weekends work tops
weekends work for you stuy....lifetimes work for me! lmao. good look gettin your new engine in dude :go: :go:
Lol, the CVH's are sooooo easy to work on
I took the engine out of my XR2 to do the crankshaft oil seal (Gearbox side) and refitted it one evening in the summer
CVH's are good for power gains, but are showing their age a little in terms of reliability
If both engines are CVH then it wont be a problem Sted, straight swap on the zorst system, engine, gearbox etc
Ya might get away with usin the brakes you got now for a while if ya wanna save a bit of money, but eventually you'll need bigger and better, so look into gettin some bigger wheels too so they'll fit in
You want the power, but you also need the ability to stop with it.
Had any quotes from anywhere on a price for doin the job?
Get the 1.6Si mk 3 fezzie mate, or if it is cheaper just buy the car and use that. If its n e thin like escorts the brakes will be ok even by ford standard.Can u believe the 1.8Si escort has the same brakes as the carbd 1.3 . Only the Gti has larger diameter and rear discs. I think the fezzie Si engine is the same zetec as the mk6 escort 1600 so itll be Injection(god im dumb,forget i wrote that), it is injection thats 4 sure, it even says S(i) go for that matey
hi thx guys does anyone know a good place that would do all the work and does anyone know how much it is goin to cost to fit all the stuff???
Sted, Go for a 1600cc CVH, Engine, Gearbox, Driveshafts, Hub's, Struts, Front brakes, Full Exhaust and Carb's mate, if you got one from a 1.6 s Fiesta MK3 the whole lot simply drops into place, Very easy to do (Watch ya dont trap a finger or two )
Once in and running you then want a four branch exhaust manifiold with a straight through 3" pipe and a set of Twin Webber 40's with intake manifold and a hi-lift Kent Camshaft, Now that would seriously move, probably leave a RS fiesta standing.
I have done a similar conversion to a escort many moons ago and it was a flying machine....
Best shop about scrap yards for a cheap engine/box ect and then speak to dazza and some other members about where you can get it fitted cheap.
will he need the fuel tank and pump changing? the HCS engines suck the petrol from the tank where as the larger capacity engines have pumps in the tanks dont they? or am i just being blonde :rolleyes:
It depends on the CVH engine, some have a mechanical pump driven from the camshaft and others do have an electronic fuel pump, the doner engine would have to be checked prior to fitting.
Havnt bothered reading any one elses posts but do what i wanted 2 do -
Convert to an Xr2 1.6 w/ Twin webbers - I dont know if the guy still works for Kerr Chan but when he did he's got a burgandy with this engine in and it sounds nice!
Get a Zetec from a newer Ford. Then pay someone to position and re-mount the engine and gearbox if it doesn't already go in. Would the mounts be different on the Fiesta?
newer zetec engines are the other way round i.e the inlet manifold is at the front of the engine bay as apposed to the back which is where they are on the earlier zetecs like mine and daz's.
i think thats right anyway?
well will hopefully do wat scooby said but can some one explain somethin wat are the following??
1)Twin Webber 40's with intake manifold
2)hi-lift Kent Camshaft
sorry if i seem dumb!!!
Twin Weber D.C.O.E. Carburetters
Kent Camshaft
OKay, What do these do then ?????
- Twin Weber 40's D.C.O.E. Carburetors
Most engines work on a single venturie carburetor design, this means the fuel and air is brought into the engine via this single carburetor, Twin Weber 40's are similar to a single carburetor but there are 4 venturies Its just like fitting 4 carburetors onto your engine therefore allowing maximum fuel to enter the engine giving you maximum performance gains.
Your camshaft allows the valves to open and close at the correct time to allow the fuel and air into your engine and then the exhaust gases out of your engine, Basically a kent camshaft does this but allows the valves to stay open a bit longer to allow more fuel and air in and then to allow the exhaust gases exit the engine better also. It also gives you a great power increase when used with bigger carburetors and a four branch exhaust manifold.
Hope this helps matey ?????
ya thx for that how much am i lookin at to get these parts and the exhaust system also will this increase the amount of fuel used ie miles per gallon ???
Originally posted by sted:
will this increase the amount of fuel used ie miles per gallon ???
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Just a little bit matey.....
You are best of seeing if you could pickup second hand Webber's (Approx £150), Camshaft would cost approx £150 or so also.
In my opinion, carbs are not worth the amount of money you'll pay (for new ones), plus they use a *lot* of juice. And they need balancing etc., not for the light hearted.
Beats the 'air filter and back box' route though!
Think I mentioned this at the last meet, but one of my Friends has an Escort that he needs rid of!
Its a Mk4 1.6 Sport - 1600 CVH. Its Taxed and MOT'd (Though he would want the tax off it) but the shell is pretty knackered and was planning on scrapping it. I think the motor and box are good though, and the brakes should also be a straight swap.
I recon he'll take scrap value (£40-£50) for the car if you come and get rid for him. Its got XR3i alloys on it also.
hi that sounds great does anyone knoe any were that i could store it to till after the new year ??
tell ya mate i will have that off him though is thge engine in good nic and does it have the fuel pumb think that scooby mentioned ??
It should have pretty much everything you need
If it has a Mechanical pump, that will be on the engine, and if its electrical it'll have one in the tank (Though you would need a fuel tank to suit your Fezzy)
Gonna call him for a few more details now
Car is located in Upton so if you and someone wanted to come and see it, its nice and local.
ya sounds great here is my number as i am not sure wen i am next online
if u find out any more details please ring me
07708973227
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