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#92873
5th Sep 2005 11:54am
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Robbing *******S What is this country coming to!? Went to put some petrol in yesterday an it was a quid a litre!! i nearly had a heart attack! This was the Shell on borough road 100.9 for a litre of petrol, when the HELL is this piss take of a constant rise going to stop? Its getting beyond a joke now and i for one am extremely pissed off with the likes of Shell constantly increasing the price of petrol What does everyone else think?
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#92874
5th Sep 2005 12:17pm
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what goes up must some down?
oild companies make billions of pounds profit a year, they are always quick enough to raise prices when oil prices increase, but seem to take their time when oil prices decrease.
Isn't like 60% of it tax.
I think the government is hoping all car companies will follow hondas lead with the civic ima. The power of a 1.6l with the costs etc of a 1.0l?
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#92875
5th Sep 2005 12:42pm
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Originally posted by AX_125: what goes up must some down?
Unfortunatly Petrol / oil is being consumed faster than its produced, and as a limited resource I can only see the price going up IMO its the tax that needs reducing.
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#92876
5th Sep 2005 4:56pm
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Got this off a different board.... The government charge us tax on what we earn, and then tax us when we buy our cars. Then they make us pay tax to own the car, and charge us a ridiculous amount of tax on the fuel for the cars. Then, they go and try and "save money" building those stupid ****ing pyramid speed bumps to stop us driving our cars properly and to rip the bottoms out of our cars rather than speding and extra few quid to make speed bumps that work properly and dont give many people problems.
Its a ****ing joke, we get taxed FOUR TIMES before we drive our cars. Let me work this out...But ill work it backwards so we can see where our "before tax" money goes.
Tank of petrol costing £50 at lets say £1 a litre, fuel tax is currently 70 % so the government gets £35 of that. We pay 17.5% VAT on the £50 which works out at £8.75 and 22% income tax on what we earn which works out at £11.
So for £50 worth of petrol, we actually need to earn £61 before tax, and the government get £54 in total for income tax, VAT and fuel tax.
We then have to pay VAT on the car itself, so say £5000 at 17.5% is £875. We have to pay %22 income tax on the £5000 to pay for the car, so we have to earn 6100 before tax for a 5k car. So for the car purchase of 5000, the government get £1975
We then have to pay tax on the car itself, which works out around £130 a year for most people. We have to actually earn £158.60 to pay for this. Not sure if VAT is charged on car tax??
So to buy a car, tax it and fill it with petrol we need to actually EARN 6319.6 before any taxes, and out of the 6319.6 we earn, the government take £2200. Thats a tax rate of 35%
That means that over one third of our money that we spend so that we can earn money, we will never see.
Lets say that half of the nation own a car worth 5k, and they all bought, taxed, and put 50 of petrol in them at the same time. That works out at the government getting £66,000,000,000 (66 billion)
so lets say, now that everyone has their cars - we then have to pay 158.60 a year for car tax, and lets say a tank of petrol a week at £50. That means we have to earn 3172 a year just to pay for petrol, and the government get 1027 of that in total.
So for half of england to run a car for a year, the government get £31,668,000,000 (31 billion, 668 thousand)
Absoloutely disgusting isnt it... Thats not even taking into account traffic offence charges, court costs etc etc etc. Transport is the ONLY Thing that can be taxed without people being able to stand up to it, because it is something we CANNOT live without.
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#92877
5th Sep 2005 6:01pm
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shoot all the dam ragheads! its their fault!
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#92878
5th Sep 2005 6:13pm
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#92879
5th Sep 2005 6:47pm
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The post from meesh is his own opinion and not that of cruisewirral. As it is only his opinion he cant get into any trouble for it and CW dont condone such actions and also cant get into any toruble for it. I do not think its there fault. I think its tony blurts fault.The nazi *******
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#92880
5th Sep 2005 10:28pm
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You beat me too it, £1.00 per litre This is taking the piss, seriously. Okay its Optimax but over £1.00 per litre i ask you.
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#92881
5th Sep 2005 11:29pm
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The shell at hinderton crossroads in neston has optimax @ 99.9, but only coz their pumps won't let them put it any higher! Otherwise, the Shell on the A41 in bromborough is the cheapest in the country and always will be, we're lucky to live where we do!
Government are charging 47p tax per litre, surely they could drop prices down to the early 70's as it was just 3 years ago?
Scooby, bet you're wishing you'd kept that focus matey?!! Price of lpg is sticking below 50p per litre.
Might have to keep hold of the Astra coz if prices keep going the way they are at least I can use cooking oil @ 75p per litre lol
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#92882
6th Sep 2005 1:36pm
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This time its not down to the government increasing tax...its down to the unfortunate events in america...oil prices have risen abroad...
when things have calmed down in america the petrol prices will get back to just being overpriced on tax as opposed to cost of oil...
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#92883
6th Sep 2005 2:04pm
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Aggy, I think we know the price of oil is rising, but the fact is over 75% of the price of fuel is still TAX!!
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6th Sep 2005 6:35pm
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