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Ed Milliband's speech just ended at the Labour Rally somewhere in Scotland........chronic !! Just so unconvincing .
I wonder how all the changes to affect all countries in UK, will be determined. Will it be up to the Government of the day or will it be another 'shoulder to shoulder event' ? With a possible change of Government in the next 12 months it could be tricky.
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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Dont know Granny. Im fascinated to see how they will execute all the promises to Scotland including those we dont know about as they happened at the 11th hour . Certainly 'England' which forms 85% of the UK will not sit back and watch quietly and watch it happen, as even many of its MP's are upset by the unknown extent of the bribes and promises--and Wales is not going to be happy either that it has less devolution than Scotland, so I think its a crafty move from Mr Cameron to announce that 'changes' for all countries will happen in the same time frame . How hard could it be to 'adjust and fiddle' with new constitutional measures in England and rest of UK,to effect that everything new given to Scotland via bribes, would basically be devalued with the effect of ending up with pretty much the status quo again ?Thats what I suspect might happen. As a previous poster said, it was going to be messy and hugely difficult, whatever the vote was . I suppose everything will be rushed through in a panic , and end up being a completely unworkable situation . Happy days to come I think!
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Seems we will end up/forced with regionalisation, that's what the EU wanted for the UK, Prescott tried to bring it in for the NE, makes all the regional area's rely on the EU, it's the breakup of the UK.
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It's going to cost us all a lorra lorra money. Can you imagine the local crowd of numpties being able to raise their own funds, and it will only be from those who are working, the reality will be horrendous. I'm an old fart so it won't really affect me but I feel sorry for the rest of you, especially the productive members of our society.
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There we have it now--- -the most often asked question to a Scotsman 54% said No.
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Always thought the Barnet formula was a bribe and the old saying much wants more seems to come into it, we were a Union where all countries were supposed to have equal values in the Union, seems some of the Scots wanted more and Gordy Brown who seems to be our PM again is doing the aircraft carrier thing , I think in a few years the Scots will try it again and will try to get even more and more devo max, to the detriment of all, Independence won't go away and will be suppressed again by the EU, as after November we pass all the rest of our laws to the EU and November 2017 we lose control of our country, where even a referendum will require permission by the EU.
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If Scotland had voted yes, it would have been crawling back to us in a few years, no Armed Forces, No Banks, No Health Service, No Scotlish Pound, Not part of the EU,etc etc! sorry but this was a pipe dream and wasted time and money, and over the last two weeks bored the pants off me with all its media coverage.
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It's not over until it's over, wonder how long before it kicks off again, if Scotland go Independent then they live off their own energies, which if you look at it's history has done well on the invention side, other small countries do well and live next to big countries, no reason why the Scots can't do just as well.
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Your honest opinion, as this sort of thing confuses the life out of me, and I still feel there must be some truth to the allegations. Fact or fiction ? Accusations made about the Scottish Legal System, Scottish political figures in Westminster, Edinburgh paedophile ring, connections to Jewish political figures in Westminster, personal links to Israel and Israeli Government. Blackmail....the list goes on. Can it really be true ? http://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/tony-blairs-dirty-little-secrets/
Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. ~Chief Seattle
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