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Of course it's dishonest and untrue. Who made that claim, or did you just introduce it to inflame the situation?
I don't care how small a percentage of the population is abusing the benefit system, that small percentage should be pursued and punished so that more money is available to the genuinely needy.

No I did not just "introduce it" as you put it, it is a relevant part of a number of posts involving other members on this thread, it would appear that you either have not read them or have taken them out of context, and further to your post I did not print nor imply that benefit abuse or fraud was right or should not be pursued nor go unpunished, or have you just added that to inflame the situation?

I didn't suggest that you did. If you chose to take it personally that's your error.
I would be interested to see a post where someone claimed that all benefit claimants were scroungers.
I must admit that, since I'm not affected, I only skim this topic, so I must have missed it.

I bet most that complain about this so called bedroom tax, say they cant afford it.But they manage to be able to buy fags and booze everynight.Something far wrong somewhere.Its just the same if you have a morgage and the interest rate goes up.Then the homeowners have no other choice than to pack in the things they can t afford.Just to keep a roof over there heads.

This woman speaks sense.

Couple of packets of ciggies a month will cover the shortfall in the benefit.

No, wait, surely that's against their human rights?

I suggest you concentrate on making sure your children and grandchildren do well in school and don't end up relying on others or on the breadline.

Then they'll have nothing to worry about.

I concentrated in school and my parents and grandparents don't have to worry about me... Just like I don't need to worry about the 2 spare bedrooms I have with boxes in.

But they will have something to worry about, no places or employment for uni graduates,a degree is worth little or nothing, I gather from your previous posts you like to make assumptions, that all benefit claimants are scroungers, that all people with spare bedrooms smoke, your remarks are tinged with sarcasm, your attitude is typical of the me me me culture, the I am all right jacks, think on this, one small stroke of misfortune a bad accident (god forbid)an illness, unemployment, these things can come out of the blue at any time, I have witnessed a lot through my life, don't be so down on those less fortunate than yourself, one day you may require a helping hand, maybe from your parents or your grandparents because like it or not, they do worry about you, that's what life is about.

A big shortfall if its 20 ciggies a day and maybe more.How much would that cost in a week?.i bet its more than enough to pay for this so called bedroom tax.Thats excluding the booze.

Ive heard a few people moaning about having to pay towards their own rent because they live in a property bigger than their needs, each time they have been in the pub with a drink in their hands complaining that they aren't getting enough benefits.

My point being it's my choice to have two spare rooms with boxes in.

I'm paying for those two rooms that I'm not using through having bought a more expensive house and having a larger mortgage etc.

That's my choice though. I don't need those rooms and if I downsized I'd have more money.

No different to the people being gifted somewhere to live... If they want to live in a bigger house, with rooms surplus to their needs then why shouldn't they pay more?

It makes perfect sense to me and the only people who think otherwise are the people it affects. Funny that.

It's also absolutely the truth that this relatively small cut in benefit for having an extra room is nothing in comparison to money spent elsewhere on things that are considered luxury items or items that aren't required in every single case I've come across.

In the pub you say ... Ive never seen or heard the likes .... however I have seen plenty of Stereotypes complaining about anything and everythink because they just love to Moan ..

I refer again to Rab C. over the holidays. Bit of a spokesman.

"Robbing from the rich to give to the ..."

Loved it.

Yes those that have worked but have been made redundant.
The youngsters that have left school, collage or uni but have no experience to be able to get a job.
Those on low wages who need help.
Ive no problem with these people getting benefits.
Its the layabouts who deem it beneath them to get off their backside to earn the money to spend on fags and booze because they get more then people who are on low wage but still have to pay their mortgage.