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Another question, lady in article above receives £838 per month in various allowances and benefits.

Does rent have to come out of this?

If not then let's assume a rental on a small place of £100 a week, £400 a month and add that onto the £838 giving £1,238.

Give or take a £ here or there she is taking home the same as someone working 9-5, 5 days a week in an admin job i.e. around £18,000 per annum.

Yet for nothing...

I fail to see a problem.

Another question, lady in article above receives £838 per month in various allowances and benefits.

Does rent have to come out of this?

If not then let's assume a rental on a small place of £100 a week, £400 a month and add that onto the £838 giving £1,238.

Give or take a £ here or there she is taking home the same as someone working 9-5, 5 days a week in an admin job i.e. around £18,000 per annum.

Yet for nothing...

I fail to see a problem.

Shocking isn t it.

Agree entirely.

The sense of entitlement in this country is horrendous.

Sloths also breed sloths and I've seen enough examples of this relatively recently. Lazy parents breeding lazy children for the child benefit. Lazy children grow up thinking what their onslow-esque parents are doing Is normal... and before you know it there is a vicious circle with no way out.

Housing benefit was paid directly to landlords and people, generations of families become completely unable to understand the value of money.

Life revolves around ciggies and booze, as early in the day as possible and as much as they can buy from the few quid they can scrape together. Kids go without nutrition so the parents can do this, the kids start smoking, health problems, harm to unborn babies, more drain on the NHS, kids with 'behavioural problems' ... BUT ITS OK BECAUSE THEY ARE ENTITLED and none of it is their fault anyway, it's the pesky governments or someone else's. Or it's a 'disability innit so da guvermint is sortin us out cuz no way they can work n that".

Morning rant over.

Your appraisal theory is flawed, because it focuses on a small proportion of benefit claimants, the majority of claimants are actually working, but are poorly paid by scrooge employers, whom expect the government / taxpayer to subsidise their workforce whist they rake in a profit, however you are correct in that it is the aforementioned abusers of the benefit and sickness and disablement payments that have stigmatised the system, a stick with which this present government is using to beat and demonise all claimants with supported by the gutter press, maybe we should be concentrating on the thieves and shysters and abusers of the system that purport to represent government (of all parties) if the country is rotten at the top then how can you criticise those at the bottom?

You are indeed right, my humble apologies nem12esis, as to the rant being worthwhile, only in so much as it gives release and support to a bigoted view.

In your response you defend the post by Emeeh as quote, "by no means bigoted" yet he/ she coins phrases such as sloths, lazy etc, yet because he/ she makes no distinction between genuine claimants (yes the majority of those unfortunate to become unemployed through no fault of their own) he/she is implying that all benefit claimants are feckless wastrels, this type of misrepresentation is used by the government to gain support for their attacks on the unemployed most of whom are genuine claimants, and their outrageous treatment of the disabled some of whom are terminally ill losing their benefits, so yes to demonise and condemn a whole section of society because a few abuse the system is indeed bigoted.