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But....but....but...... Wench. My Daily Newspaper does not report stories like this!!! This cannot be true!!!!!

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I honestly do believe that the people that think that people on benefits are scroungers, have big TV's, go on lovely holidays all the time etc are completely ignorant and have no idea about the true scale of things.
As someone said before, do you really think that the papers would be reporting this kind of nonsense about people on benefits if it were common practise. Only the rare cases are reported - why? - because they are extreme cases.
Its like some of you like to conjure up pure crap and quit frankly bulls*** about people on benefits because you type of people need a scapegoat to blame for this so called recession.
I understand its only human nature to find someone to blame but f*** me blaming the poor and bringing them to their knees even more so than what they already are is pure evil

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Originally Posted by Zubee


You did call people on benefits thick. And as you were unlucky enough to be one of them for 11 months, you of all people shouldn't being tarring them all with the same brush.



You've twice accused Pinzgauer of calling people on benefits "thick": where?, I can't see it.
And far from tarring all people on benefits with the same brush, he makes a clear division.
Quote Pinzgauer "It was plain as a pikestaff, those who wanted a job and those who were "at it"." End quote.


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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
But....but....but...... Wench. My Daily Newspaper does not report stories like this!!! This cannot be true!!!!!


Maybe someone from the Daily Fail will pick my story up and make me famous for 5 seconds wink

I paid a lot of tax & stamp when I was working. I dropped over £20k pa when I lost my job. Not once when I got paid did I moan about how much I was paying in tax etc because I thought "there by the grace of the Gods go I". I didn't mind helping those who were less fortunate than me, but that's the type of person I am. I was of the mindset that at least if I ever needed it, the "system" would be there to help me. I never in a million years thought I would end up part of that system. And that is the point - you never know what is going to happen from one second to the next. If you survive today at work, unscathed and in good health, then be happy. You never know what tomorrow will bring.



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Exactly Shambo and Suexx.
You must be reading something else. Suexxx and Shambo have differing views, in this 'discussion'. Oh dear...
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Well today in work just out of interest I asked someone what they thought about people on benefits. Their reply was, yeah fine with people getting benefits that really do need them. But there are those that milk the system for what they can get.
They said they knew someone like that,it was a fella who was signing on but working on the side.
So it does go on and no one can tell me any different.

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As a working person, doing on average 50+ hours a week, just over the minimum wage, I am still eligible for working tax credits, the child tax credits and child benefit has ended as my youngest is 18 very soon. I am paying full rent and council tax, water, gas, electric etc. I have broadband, Virgin TV and even a mobile phone! As I am on 'some kind of benefit' that I have paid my tax and stamp for for some years, should I be means tested? Oh, wait, I am, tax credit IS means tested!! You don't get it if you earn above a threshold! I obviously don't!
As an aside, I know of cleaners in one of my previous employs who take home toilet rolls, black bags, soap, mops, even vacuum cleaners as a 'perk' of the job! How is this any different from benefit claimants 'milking' the system>
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So it does go on and no one can tell me any different.

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Originally Posted by SUExx
Well today in work just out of interest I asked someone what they thought about people on benefits. Their reply was, yeah fine with people getting benefits that really do need them. But there are those that milk the system for what they can get.
They said they knew someone like that,it was a fella who was signing on but working on the side.
So it does go on and no one can tell me any different.


Firstly Suexxx, had this person been sensible, she should have reported the fella. If more people did, it might just leave more paid employment available for those who are on benefits.

It seems strange to me that everyone is very protective about those who try to rip the system off. Surely those who are unemployed on Wiki must agree that benefit scroungers are not to be supported, because in the long term it affects the opinions of the population. Nobody here from the umemployed group of people, seem to be able to come out and speak the truth.
So far as I am concerned with the disability issues, if one can answer a phone, use a computer, get on a bus,and write, they should at least be able to seek employment,there is a huge drive to help people with disabilities back into work (unless they are mental health issues, which are more difficult)
No one is opposed to people who are genuinely unemployed as it's a dire situation to be in,but for some reason only the employed can seem to see how the scroungers mulitply.Maybe many of those have also been unemployed at some time, but because they were the genuine ones, it was a far better option to go out, find work and do something positive for their own mental well being, instead of sitting at home dwelling on their problems....which is soul destroying. The more benefit scroungers there are, the less those genuine benefit seekers are likely to receive.


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*absolutley fooking speechless*

Form an orderly queue now..... I shall try and arrange a *tag along with mum type work experience day for you all*


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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
*absolutley fooking speechless*

Form an orderly queue now..... I shall try and arrange a *tag along with mum type work experience day for you all*


Nazis unwelcome.


Good. Pleased you are speecless for once! Most don't seem to take on board what you come out with anyway. We can't all agree about all things, can we?
...and what's with this Nazi/German hook you are into at the moment? think


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Well as a person who hasn't had a foreign holiday for years and can't afford a car I don't very much like my taxes being spent on treating people who persist in breaking bones skiing or who whizz up motorways at 80 then need expensive NHS interventions following a crash. Even less do I like my taxes being spent on military adventurism or renewing Trident. Neither do I much like them putting housing benefit into the deep pockets of BTL landlords - I'd much rather my taxes helped fund a large scale social housing programme, so giving decent affordable housing to many who need it and also saving money long-term.

But hey, we're all different.

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'Most dont take on board what I come out with'?!

Full marks for observational skills, you may also note that the same applies to your views too?

I speak for myself, I do not need nor wish nor ask for people to back up my points of view.

I agree, not everbody thinks the same. Be boring if we did.

As for my Nazi comments, perhaps the connotation is lost on some... never mind....

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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
As for my Nazi comments, perhaps the connotation is lost on some... never mind....


You should try Nietzsche!



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I have-its Bollocks. Goodnight.

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Originally Posted by RUDEBOX
I have-its Bollocks. Goodnight.


That's because you don't understand him. If you did, you'd have a degree in philosophy! Night smile


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