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Thank you Casper on behalf of all those who do put themselves into the community, for the benefit of the community. What's more, they get great pleasure from it all.


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Sorry state of affairs don't you think Granny in 21 century Britain, Foodbanks, Save the Children asking for donations for children in this country and not where you would expect, some far flung war torn backward country on another continent. A couple reasons unions were formed in the first place.


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Originally Posted by bert1
Sorry state of affairs don't you think Granny in 21 century Britain, Foodbanks, Save the Children asking for donations for children in this country and not where you would expect, some far flung war torn backward country on another continent. A couple reasons unions were formed in the first place.


They haven't managed to do so much then, have they?

Another thing, how many teachers, nurses, doctors, afford to go abroad for their holidays, to far flung backward countries and pop a penny in the laps of the beggars, for appearances sake?

Ah yes! ..and what do they take with them? IPad, IPhone, medical insurance, incase they're sick, travel insurance in case they loose their personal possesions of great importance but they'd call the local policeman if someone dare to try and pinch their cigarette lighter.

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Granny,

What is the problem with Nurses, Doctors and teachers going abroad on holiday? What's the problem with them having Ipads, phone or anything else?

Confused and lost me.


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Originally Posted by bert1
Granny,

What is the problem with Nurses, Doctors and teachers going abroad on holiday? What's the problem with them having Ipads, phone or anything else?

Confused and lost me.


No Bert, you are loosing the plot!

The teachers and NHS are taking industrial action because of PAY, CONDITIONS and PENSIONS.
They have enough pay to go on holiay to far flung countires, they have good conditions and holidays to match, they have pensions, which once they retire and take them, they are then eliglble to go back in the same positions as supply teaching etc.
So the point is........they have enough to have a rather good life, wouldn't you say, in comparison , to your quote of conditions in this country being like a far flung war torn country. They are the ones taking strike action, not the children or the pensioners, or the unemployed, or the sick.
The ones taking strike action are the very ones who have it good.
That is fairly simple. and if you can't see that, then 'Off with your head'


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Oh I see your point Granny, everyone in this country from the lowest recipient of benefits to the highest paid tycoon should only receive enough to live on, for the basics, enough to sustain life and no more. It might work if everyone was included and not just some.


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Originally Posted by bert1
Oh I see your point Granny, everyone in this country from the lowest recipient of benefits to the highest paid tycoon should only receive enough to live on, for the basics, enough to sustain life and no more. It might work if everyone was included and not just some.


Read again Bert, you obviously don't see my point because you do not wish to. Your interpretaion is twisting my words to suit your own agenda. You are the one who compared the situation in this country to a far off war torn country. Which to my mind is quite appalling. Maybe you should pay a visit to some of those countries yourself and take stock of your words. I somehow don't think they would be able to agree with you. While your there have a few hundred quid, ready to give to the beggars with no limbs.

So, it is 'Off With Your Head'

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Read again Granny

Sorry state of affairs don't you think Granny in 21 century Britain, Foodbanks, Save the Children asking for donations for children in this country and not where you would expect, some far flung war torn backward country on another continent. A couple reasons unions were formed in the first place.

I never compared the children of this country to those poor souls in places abroad, the point was, you wouldn't expect for an organisation like Save the Children to feel they had to ask for donations for children here.
But you see that's alright because the government of the day have created, so they say, many jobs in the private sector and the price we have to pay is children suffering and people going hungry.


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Originally Posted by bert1
I never compared the children of this country to those poor souls in places abroad, the point was, you wouldn't expect for an organisation like Save the Children to feel they had to ask for donations for children here.
But you see that's alright because the government of the day have created, so they say, many jobs in the private sector and the price we have to pay is children suffering and people going hungry.


O.K. Bert, I'm quite sure you wouldn't intend to, but that's how it came across.
I'm off now. Had enough but I'm sure we'll meet again and please don't think you have won the cause, because you aint. seeyu


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