WikiWirral Share a Little Learn a Lot about your Wirral
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,369
Posts1,033,336
Members14,588
Most Online16,551
Feb 2nd, 2024
Who's Online Now
9 members (2 invisible), 10,367 guests, and 848 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,791
_Ste_ 16,345
Newest Members
EricB, H2OH2O, Jasontodd, jamiemc75, Bunny
14,588 Registered Users
New General Forums
Hi to everyone
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 1:18pm
Last person to post wins...
by GaryB - 9th Oct 2007 9:15pm
New Wirral History
Through the Window: GWR Paddington to Birkenhead
by yoller - 16th Aug 2017 7:09pm
Possible crop marks in Landican?
by tomstevens - 21st Apr 2010 4:53pm
The History of Wallasey Village
by PaulWirral - 1st Jul 2009 6:03pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
casper 5
lincle 4
granny 3
Topic Replies
Hi to everyone
by casper - 30th Apr 2024 6:59pm
turkish sofa
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 8:24pm
italian furniture
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 7:07pm
leather sofa set
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 4:47pm
Help Needed for Virginia Creeper Removal
by Rinchen - 28th Apr 2024 2:08pm
Looking for an old engine
by TheComputerLab - 27th Apr 2024 3:11pm
Car paint jobs
by TheComputerLab - 27th Apr 2024 3:09pm
Wanted Gardener
by kimpri - 27th Apr 2024 6:45am
Plymyard House
by granny - 23rd Apr 2024 3:49pm
May
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
casper 1
Top Likes Received
bert1 14
casper 4
Mark 4
granny 3
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 40 of 62 1 2 38 39 40 41 42 61 62
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
woop woop Rotty grin xx

Google Ads
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 413
Smartchild
Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 413
Originally Posted by granny
Originally Posted by SUExx
Exactly, lots of people in work would prob like to take to the streets to protest about having to work twice as hard for no extra pay when staff leave and arent replaced. LIFE IS STILL UNFAIR TO ALL.


Single Unemployed mum with two children = £1,400 per month.= Approx. £16,800 per annum.
No council tax to pay
Housing benefit given
Rent equals poss. £600
Need two bedrooms

Single Working father with two children = £1,400 per month =Approx £16,800 per annum
Pays Council tax
Pays Tax
Pays National Insurance
Pays Rent £600
Needs two bedrooms
Pays to get to work
Pays child maintenance
Expected to have children 2/3 nights/days per week

Single Unemployed father with two children= £71 per week = £3,692 per annum
Housing benefit given
Needs 2 bedrooms
Will have to pay BT if social housing
Needs to see children and feed them
No Council Tax
Needs to pay bills
Needs to travel to collect children
Needs to travel for any possible job interview

Now, if I am wrong, please let me know, but it would
a) seem that the chaps get a far worse deal than the females, and
b) It would seem that working at the moment on a fairly average salary for this part of the country, is clearly, very hard to get by on. Who is worse off?
If the companies began to increase the salaries some, I think more would be prepared to get out and work, more would go into the council tax pots and maybe this BT would not needed to have happened.


or you could have single mother working paying child care council tax, housing benefit, rent etc for just £10 better of which is the better alternative?

It pays to work Cameron says yes it does but for a few ££ extra is it worth it?

Minimum wage needs increasing to make it more appealing for people on benefits to want to work.

This is a scenario i have seen questioned a few times.

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 176
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 176
This current hypocritical government, is piece by piece, bit by bit, are dismantling and destroying our welfare state and public sector.
In the guise of reducing the national deficit, and pretence of seeking to reform the ‘benefit culture’ we have a £5 Billion work programme scheme, which creates significant wealth for the private companies involved and those finding work placements,only being paid £56.25/wk (under 25s) £71/wk (over 25,s) having the effect of destabilizing the jobs market is in fact unlawful if human rights laws were applied.
A further £100 Million/yr paid to Atos Origin + £50 Million/yr paid to the justice system for appeals/tribunals in order to justify who is actually sick & disabled and fund a seriously flawed Work Capability Assessment is grossly wasteful.
More people in work are needing housing benefit, Wages are being driven down by desperation, workers rights are being eroded, wages frozen or even reduced, rents shooting through the roof, desperately needed social housing not being built,
Can we really ask ourselves, if this is value for money?
Do we really want a completely corporate/privatised nation?
Can we sit back and allow the rich to become wealthier and the poor & sick become weaker?
How do you want the future to be shaped for your children and their children?

The Govt & media are doing an excellant job of brainwashing most people to believe that the poorer of society are the scroungers, when in reality that is not true, people of this nation need to wake up.


Last edited by rottylady; 30th Mar 2013 11:08am.
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,684
rocks Offline OP
Wiki Addict
OP Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,684
see you at the march peeps


[Linked Image]
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Old Hand
Offline
Old Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Completely off topic but wirral partnership homes is cjanging its name to magenta living in summer 2013

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 3
So there you go. Another part of Wirral Council outsourced.Ha! Our labour council kept that one quiet, didn't they?
The BT must be part of the whole equation . Raise the prices of rental property which also then includes figures of any available for occupancy, only to be considered by someone else, to take it off your hands.

Company registered in Birmingham .

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/magenta-living

Last edited by granny; 30th Mar 2013 12:59pm.

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 58
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 58
Originally Posted by rottylady
This current hypocritical government, is piece by piece, bit by bit, are dismantling and destroying our welfare state and public sector.
In the guise of reducing the national deficit, and pretence of seeking to reform the ‘benefit culture’ we have a £5 Billion work programme scheme, which creates significant wealth for the private companies involved and those finding work placements,only being paid £56.25/wk (under 25s) £71/wk (over 25,s) having the effect of destabilizing the jobs market is in fact unlawful if human rights laws were applied.
A further £100 Million/yr paid to Atos Origin + £50 Million/yr paid to the justice system for appeals/tribunals in order to justify who is actually sick & disabled and fund a seriously flawed Work Capability Assessment is grossly wasteful.
More people in work are needing housing benefit, Wages are being driven down by desperation, workers rights are being eroded, wages frozen or even reduced, rents shooting through the roof, desperately needed social housing not being built,
Can we really ask ourselves, if this is value for money?
Do we really want a completely corporate/privatised nation?
Can we sit back and allow the rich to become wealthier and the poor & sick become weaker?
How do you want the future to be shaped for your children and their children?

The Govt & media are doing an excellant job of brainwashing most people to believe that the poorer of society are the scroungers, when in reality that is not true, people of this nation need to wake up.



Well said rotty. I work part time on minimum wage as I care for my disabled wife who has had her once incapacity benefit halved despite winning ESA appeal against ATOS because the government say a married couple can live on £111 a week. I'd like to see them try it - they probably spend more than that on a meal!
We already pay bedroom tax, as LHA on private tenancies is so low we have to find £106 a month towards it. And now somehow we have to find another £16 towards council tax. Blood from a stone springs to mind, I can see WBC's nasty enforcement department and bailiffs laughing already frown

I've worked all my life, paid taxes and now I'm a scrounger it seems. While millionaries get a tax break; All in it together my hairy posterior!

Last edited by Steve_Wallasey; 30th Mar 2013 2:04pm.
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 413
Smartchild
Offline
Smartchild
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 413
Originally Posted by jen8505
Completely off topic but wirral partnership homes is cjanging its name to magenta living in summer 2013


A few months ago the booklets that are delivered via WPH explained this new change.

I remember reading it as there was another name they where going to use but it ended up Magenta being the new name.

Also found this>

http://www.wirralnews.co.uk/wirral-...wirral-partnership-homes-80491-31903637/

Last edited by Katryn; 30th Mar 2013 2:53pm.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Old Hand
Offline
Old Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
I didn't see anything in the last issue. I got the spring issue this morning and its in there saying they had 2 names to choose between and chose magenta living at a meeting in February but the name magenta living was registered in August. Someone's telling porkies. Considering they have no money they have enough to change the name, move offices and print all the new stationery with the new logo and address on them

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Old Hand
Offline
Old Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Don't know how we'll this will turn out

Attached Images
image.jpg
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 139
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 139
Originally Posted by jen8505
I didn't see anything in the last issue. I got the spring issue this morning and its in there saying they had 2 names to choose between and chose magenta living at a meeting in February but the name magenta living was registered in August. Someone's telling porkies. Considering they have no money they have enough to change the name, move offices and print all the new stationery with the new logo and address on them


I gather that you don't run a business?

Westminster House allows them to consolidate a large number of properties they were using before. Everything in one place.

They need to look to the medium and long term, not just the short term.


Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 3
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 17,791
Likes: 3
Originally Posted by jen8505
I didn't see anything in the last issue. I got the spring issue this morning and its in there saying they had 2 names to choose between and chose magenta living at a meeting in February but the name magenta living was registered in August. Someone's telling porkies. Considering they have no money they have enough to change the name, move offices and print all the new stationery with the new logo and address on them


Page 3
http://www.wphomes.org.uk/Libraries/Leaflets/WPH_News_December_2012.sflb.ashx

Classed as 'rebranding'. Definition of 'rebranding' can also incude changing an organisation. Not just the name.
It would appear that 'social housing' as it is now known and means, is likely to change before too long. These things don't happen for no apparent reason.
It's all 'back door' stuff and the whole bloody lot is beginning to stink to high heaven. IMOP.
I peronally don't give a monkeys on millionaires good fortune, whether they pay more or less tax than they should etc.etc.etc. and all the things that people winge about if they are not on the same high and mighty level. I winge about the fact that there is so much underhanded, manipulated, behind closed door, changes being made, which is known about at a local level and no one ever mentions these things with clarity, until it is alomst too late for reprieve. The councillors we elect are abismal. I sent an email to two of them about 3/4 weeks ago. To date, I haven't even received an acknowledgement. Also, when they appear to appease, it's empty words. They are not involved from a local concern even if they appear to be.
How can anyone know what it's like to loose a leg,if they haven't experienced it?
How can anyone know what it's like to loose a child, if they haven't experienced it?
How can anyone know what it is to live on £71 per week, if they haven't experienced it?
How can anyone know what it's like to loose your home, if they haven't experienced it?
If they know, the least they can do is be open , above critisism and listen. Listen so hard that their ears bleed with pain and take the bloody messages back to base and then make them listen so hard that their ears bleed with pain.
somad

Sorry, getting carried away!!




Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
~Chief Seattle
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 19,446

Last edited by RUDEBOX; 30th Mar 2013 7:29pm.
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Old Hand
Offline
Old Hand
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 320
Looks like there was a huge turn out

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,684
rocks Offline OP
Wiki Addict
OP Offline
Wiki Addict
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,684
great turn out smile

Attached Images
BT demo l'pool 053.JPG

[Linked Image]
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.
Page 40 of 62 1 2 38 39 40 41 42 61 62

Moderated by  Mod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
turkish sofa
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 8:24pm
italian furniture
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 7:07pm
leather sofa set
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 4:47pm
Help Needed for Virginia Creeper Removal
by Rinchen - 28th Apr 2024 2:08pm
Looking for an old engine
by TheComputerLab - 27th Apr 2024 3:11pm
For Sale & Free
Member Spotlight
Dilly
Dilly
wallasey
Posts: 8,973
Joined: July 2011
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Help Needed for Virginia Creeper Removal
by Rinchen - 28th Apr 2024 2:08pm
Wanted Gardener
by dodie - 24th Apr 2024 1:09pm
Plymyard House
by Granada - 23rd Apr 2024 2:35pm
recommendation, please
by muzzy2 - 16th Apr 2024 7:39pm
Traffic Wardens
by Excoriator - 11th Apr 2024 4:11pm
News : New Topics
turkish sofa
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 8:24pm
italian furniture
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 7:07pm
leather sofa set
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 4:47pm
West Kirby flood defences
by Excoriator - 10th Apr 2024 10:45pm
Sunak and Reality
by diggingdeeper - 4th Jan 2023 12:56am
New Enthusiast Forums
Looking for an old engine
by TheComputerLab - 27th Apr 2024 3:11pm
Pigeon breeder
by lincle - 22nd Apr 2024 8:17am
Car paint jobs
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 9:54pm
Any Decent Restaurant Open On a Mon Evening.
by Uffda - 21st Oct 2012 7:16pm
Popular Topics(Views)
5,072,168 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,019,075 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5