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Originally Posted by rottylady
From April 2013 all current and future working age tenants renting from a local authority, housing association or other registered social landlord will receive Housing Benefit based on the need of their household.
The size criteria allows one bedroom for each person or couple living as part of the household :
• Children under 16 of the same gender are expected to share
• Children under 10 are expected to share regardless of gender
• A disabled tenant or partner who needs a non-resident overnight carer will be allowed an extra room
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/adviser/updates/size-criteria-social-rented/


I quote from you
“”A young family can have bedrooms for there kids rather than 2 or more siblings in one room””

It would depend on the ages & gender of the siblings
Bedroom tax affects families with children also
siblings will be forced to share rooms smaller than a politicians closet.



Thanks for this information,thats all i wanted to know.
i think genuine cases eg pensioners,families with kids or the disabled or a terminal illness should be taken serious.but couples who there siblings have flown the nest and sitting in a 2 or 3 bedroom house maybe should think of a swap and give the ones who have kids a family home.I think this bedroom tax will catch a few that are ripping the system and don t need bigger houses just a waste of space.Not unless the cat or the dog has a room of there own haha.

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Originally Posted by Candlyfloss
Originally Posted by rottylady
From April 2013 all current and future working age tenants renting from a local authority, housing association or other registered social landlord will receive Housing Benefit based on the need of their household.
The size criteria allows one bedroom for each person or couple living as part of the household :
• Children under 16 of the same gender are expected to share
• Children under 10 are expected to share regardless of gender
• A disabled tenant or partner who needs a non-resident overnight carer will be allowed an extra room
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/adviser/updates/size-criteria-social-rented/


I quote from you
“”A young family can have bedrooms for there kids rather than 2 or more siblings in one room””

It would depend on the ages & gender of the siblings
Bedroom tax affects families with children also
siblings will be forced to share rooms smaller than a politicians closet.



Thanks for this information,thats all i wanted to know.
i think genuine cases eg pensioners,families with kids or the disabled or a terminal illness should be taken serious.but couples who there siblings have flown the nest and sitting in a 2 or 3 bedroom house maybe should think of a swap and give the ones who have kids a family home.I think this bedroom tax will catch a few that are ripping the system and don t need bigger houses just a waste of space.Not unless the cat or the dog has a room of there own haha.


Couldn't agree more Candyfloss

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Squaring Up to The Bedroom Tax: Resistance Grows Around the UK

http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/201...resistance-grows-around-the-uk/#comments

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Did anyone see PM questions today? Our lovely PM did not answer one question directly about this.

Ed Milliband asked him to explain this.

In Middlesbrough a lady who has retired her kids have left home and she is in a 3 bed social housing costing £68.25 per week has been told she will have to pay £25 a week towards her rent, the council has no 1 bed properties available so she would have to go private and the rent for them is over £100 per week which would be paid in full by the tax payer.

This woman must still be of working age to qualify so surely this proves that the GOVT would be better investing in building more properties which would increase jobs and help the economy as well as the housing shortage.

Another example by Ed Milliband was a woman who had twin 18 year olds who are serving at the minute, as they are no longer at home as they are based in Afgahn she will be hit with the bedroom tax, basically the GOVT are saying thanks for letting us send your sons to war, can we have £25 a week for the pleasure.


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Interesting reading Rotty.

Yer, I saw it DDD, PMQ where he never answers a question directley!!

Had to laugh at Michael McCann asking whether the PM could confirm that ATOS has found Richard the 3rd fit for work.
In fact, Im still laughing now!
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Haha RUDE, missed that about Richard the 3rd, turned over after the Tax thing in anger.

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Bedroom Tax story on ITV news at 6.30pm.


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Originally Posted by dizdazdoz
Haha RUDE, missed that about Richard the 3rd, turned over after the Tax thing in anger.
Aw no, it really was hysterical. Luckily, we taped it and have watched it over and over, focusing on the the expressions of differant m.p's each time. laugh

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TY Bert very very funny raftl

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Rudebox have a read of this comment posted on

http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/201...resistance-grows-around-the-uk/#comments

I would encourage every person affected by this vindictive tax to appeal to their Council’s decision to reduce their housing benefit. They will review it and uphold the reduction and then you are entitled to take the matter to a Tribunal which is presided over by a Judge.
The government has refused, despite being encouraged to do so by the House of Lords, to define what constitutes a spare bedroom. Lord Freud has said:
“We will not be defining what we mean by a bedroom in legislation and there is no definition of a minimum bedroom size set out in regulations. It will be up to the landlord to accurately describe the property in line with the actual rent charged.”
As far as I am aware, it is for Parliament to define the laws of this land, not Landlords.
Therefore an argument can be made to the Tribunal that if it is a room with a dining table and chairs, then most people would describe that as a dining room and not a bedroom. Because the law has been made deliberately vague and because Landlords do not make the law in this country, a reasonable Judge might be persuaded that a room that does not comply with the dictionary definition of a bedroom and looks more like a dining room or an office, is not, in fact, a bedroom at all and therefore the tenant cannot be penalised by paying bedroom tax.
You do have some chance of success. You might get a reasonable Judge who takes the view that the government have deliberately written a law so vague that it either cannot be enforced, or alternatively agree that if it looks like a dining room then it is a dining room, no matter what a tenancy agreement says.
It costs nothing to take the decision to Appeal. You can represent yourself. Even if Judges agree Lord Freud and decide that Landlords CAN define who pays this tax, imagine the publicity and mayhem that would ensue if half a million people clogged up the Appeal system


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it just had a good airing on ch4 about how its going to cost the gov/tax payer more money when people are forced into private accommodation


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Hmm Rotty. I see somebody has already c +p to the group, I shall let you know what peeps are saying.

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Originally Posted by rocks
it just had a good airing on ch4 about how its going to cost the gov/tax payer more money when people are forced into private accommodation
The news, Rocks? Media attention has increased loads lately.

I know i.t.v are crying out for more stories, on the back of last week.

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