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Myself and possibly a UNISON banner. Last time I went on a march Leah Fraser [ex-Tory Cllr. for Liscard] was next to me. She was, rather uncomfortably, carrying a poster saying "no privatisation of council services"!

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Haha, so she has been seen in public then, ive never met her, considering she is our local candidate for Cons its very strange.

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She's the prospective candidate for Wallasey Village ward at the next local elections. Wallasey ward is usually a very safe Tory seat but I suspect it will be a lot closer than usual next time. Fraser seems to have whatever the opposite of the Midas Touch is.

The Tories have done quite badly in Wallasey recently losing in New Brighton, Seacombe and Liscard wards. They'll probably lose their only seat in Leasowe next time aswell. Cllr. Ian Lewis admitted as much at a council meeting. This despite him being quite popular locally.

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I think sometimes people vote for the wrong reason, just because you don't like Conservative means u have to vote Labour and Vice versa, their are other options I for one am open to UKIP at the moment!

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I'm a socialist so could never vote Tory. I usually vote Labour, Green, Socialist Party and once, Lib Dem. Still, each to their own.

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Boooooo, of course, thats our right to have the freedom of the right to vote and for who we want to vote for!

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Touchstone.

You a socialist, I would never have guessed?

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be interested to know what they pay packages and pension pots of the Unilever directors are.

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Then read the annual reports. All the data is given in there. As a % of the total pension pot (given in the annual reports) it is small for all the Directors together - and remember the payments they have made INTO the pot have been huge. No, I am NOT a Director or anything like. Indeed, after 40 years there as a moderately senior person (but still lowly) in terms of responsibility ie handling budget decisions up to £1 million, my pension nearly equates to as much as that of a teacher. I do however know how hard some of the Directors & very senior people worked, how dedicated they were to the business and the staffs and I do not begrudge them what they get.



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So why are they closing the tunnel's ??, has any strike in the past ever closed them ?, as far as i can recal when they went on strike in the past it was just the same old tunnel's but with no people about (apart from the one's in the cars !).

If you ask me it's a political disision to close them and nothing to do with the strike !!.

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Almost certainly 'elf & safey is my guess is why the tunnels are closing and not just being left open. Probably to do with the ventilation & similar systems rather than just that there will be no toll operators.

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Ventilation didn't work properly in the Birkenhead tunnel for YEARS, you could actually taste the air as you went through it.

Someone said it might be in case of an accident, well surely thats what the moles are for, and if they are a real police force, as they've claimed for years, they can't go on strike.

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the trouble with england is no one sticks together if you had all listend to ENOCH POWELL and the goverment wasnt paying to keep the rest of the world i am sure you would be getting your big fat pensions but you carnt have your cake and eat it

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Originally Posted by BandyCoot
Negotiate until you run out of room for a start off. Sewotka, who was my old union boss, has even refused to go to meetings but then again he was always trying to get us out on strike for no good reason. Bad ass.


When I was working he came to my office.

Must admit at the time I thought him sincere and was impressed by his attitude

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I am a skilled private sector worker, married with 3 children, one of which is disabled. I have not had a pay increase for the past 3 years in fact last year, I and my 3 colleagues took a 25% pay cut each to keep our jobs and save our office junior from redundancy. I cannot afford to pay into a private pension nor can my husband, also a skilled private sector worker on a modest wage (far less than the pubic sector image of the private sector wage as he was made redundant in the recession and took a pay cut just to secure a job)the pay barrier between the public and private sector is rapidly becoming a myth. we are being forced to pay for the public sector strike tomorrow. where is the justice? if you want to hit the government then do so, don't hit the hardworking people already footing the biggest bill. Tomorrows strikers you have no sympathy from me for your approach, we are all being hit but you're hurting the wrong people by this strike.

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Originally Posted by Snodvan




As a % of the total pension pot (given in the annual reports) it is small for all the Directors together - and remember the payments they have made INTO the pot have been huge. No, I am NOT a Director or anything like. Indeed, after 40 years there as a moderately senior person (but still lowly) in terms of responsibility ie handling budget decisions up to £1 million, my pension nearly equates to as much as that of a teacher. I do however know how hard some of the Directors & very senior people worked, how dedicated they were to the business and the staffs and I do not begrudge them what they get.



Fair enough. Just don't begrudge much lower paid workers a decent retirement. And remember, without the people lower down the chain, there wouldn't be any company at all. People at ALL levels work hard so ALL deserve good pensions.

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