Welcome to WikiWirral, sharing is what we do best.
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics76,376
Posts1,033,378
Members14,596
Most Online16,551
Feb 2nd, 2024
Who's Online Now
7 members (Atticus, 4 invisible), 6,692 guests, and 481 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters
sunnyside 45,164
MattLFC 22,315
Mark 21,269
granny 17,792
_Ste_ 16,345
Newest Members
HMacLewis, Mmemarc, Micaelab, sc1980, Wallis76
14,596 Registered Users
New General Forums
Hi to everyone
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 1:18pm
Last person to post wins...
by GaryB - 9th Oct 2007 9:15pm
New Wirral History
What Happened To The Jiggers?
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 8:49pm
Grange Road Co-Op
by Erainn - 6th May 2024 3:08pm
ST Hugh Birkenhead and Maris Stella NB
by terrier - 20th Apr 2023 7:33pm
Bromborough Ju88 incident
by mikeeb - 2nd Jan 2014 5:09pm
the empress club
by thefreethinker - 16th Sep 2010 10:45pm
Top Posters(30 Days)
Erainn 8
bert1 3
Topic Replies
PC/Xbox Gamepad & Accessories
by Catsick - 23rd May 2024 9:58am
Bromborough Ju88 incident
by RWeth - 22nd May 2024 11:52am
the empress club
by diggingdeeper - 22nd May 2024 5:31am
What Happened To The Jiggers?
by Erainn - 18th May 2024 12:43pm
The Co-op Ghoul
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 9:12pm
Shops gone by
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 8:45pm
Grange Road Co-Op
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 8:33pm
Willaston
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 8:07pm
May
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30 31
Top Likes Received (30 Days)
None yet
Top Likes Received
bert1 14
Mark 4
casper 4
Gibbo 3
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Forum Guide
OP Offline
Forum Guide
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
There's a lot on my local Facebook about the Council possibly closing Woodchurch Leisure Centre, which they have neglected for some time, on the grounds that it was under-used, which is a bit of a cheek considering the state they let it get into, the pandemic etc.There was also - somewhere - a mention of another threat to Wirral's library provision looming. Does anyone know about this and can share links etc, please?

Google Ads
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,630
Forum Addict
Offline
Forum Addict
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,630
Libraries, leisure centres, golf courses and public loos.
"However, they are not set in stone yet and will go through several committees where they can be changed or scrapped altogether"
https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/19836910.devastated-plans-close-much-loved-wirral-services/

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,356
Likes: 20
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,356
Likes: 20
Council will have to do whatever the Government tell them to do. In the last 10 years Wirral has lost £220m from its budget from the Government.

Basically the Government wanted libraries, leisure centres etc closed 10 years ago and the Council quite rightly have tried to resist this.

The Council underfunding is so bad that even the Government agreed Wirral Council had to borrow extra money last year but there can be no long term plan other than to shut off services. "The CIPFA report says the council's claim for exceptional financial support from government is 'reasonable and necessary'"

Already numerous services are bolstered by volunteers and donated finance - the public has to realise the level of theft that successive right wing Governments have performed.

Don't forget to add park maintenance on the list, that is also under threat - something else the voluntary sector will have to take over.

Where I do disagree with the Council is the high paid executives of the Council, big money does not automatically get you better quality and contracts with severance bonuses should be banned.


We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Forum Guide
OP Offline
Forum Guide
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Thanks for the feedback folks - I've found out a bit more about which libraries are for the chop. The proposed option to be discussed on Monday is as follows:
Libraries staying open and staffed: Birkenhead and Wallasey Central, West Kirby, Bebington, Eastham, Moreton, Upton, Heswall.
Libraries in shared premises operating on a self-serve basis: Leasowe, Beechwood, Ridgeway, St. James, Seacombe.
Libraries threatened with closure:Bromborough, Greasby, Higher Bebington, Hoylake, Irby, New Ferry, Pensby, Prenton, Rock Ferry, Wallasey Village, Woodchurch.

I agree that the Council is between a rock and a hard place, financially, partly (and only partly!) through no fault of its own. It is nevertheless important for people to strive to retain what is important to their local communities. Personally I'd rather have some rewilding in parks and verges full of wild flowers than no library.

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,119
Forum Guardian
Offline
Forum Guardian
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,119
Having lived on Wirral for 10 years before returning to north Devon 5 years ago, I always felt you guys didn't realise how lucky you were with facilities. North Devon is around 10 times bigger than Wirral and has:
2 x recycling centres
3 x local authority leisure centres

Currently 6 x libraries against Wirral has 23. I'm sure you don't feel it but you really are a lot better off than you may think

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Forum Guide
OP Offline
Forum Guide
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
That's true, everything's relative! Your area is a lot bigger but sparsely populated in parts, Exmoor for example. How does provision work out per head of population? Wirral's population as far as I can discover is 322,796 (ish).

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,356
Likes: 20
Wiki Master
Offline
Wiki Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 14,356
Likes: 20
Originally Posted by Softy_Southerner
Having lived on Wirral for 10 years before returning to north Devon 5 years ago, I always felt you guys didn't realise how lucky you were with facilities. North Devon is around 10 times bigger than Wirral and has:
2 x recycling centres
3 x local authority leisure centres

Currently 6 x libraries against Wirral has 23. I'm sure you don't feel it but you really are a lot better off than you may think


Wirral (Borough) has over three times the population of North Devon (District) so proportioning your figures Wirral should have at least

6 recycling centres but we only have 3
9 leisure centres but we only have 6
18 libraries but we only have 16 (some opening as little as two days a week, I think only three are full-time(?) - not sure where you got 23 from, maybe peninsula?)

However,as you say, North Devon has a lot more area, it is about four times bigger than Wirral so you would expect it to need proportionally more facilities so those stats could be seen to be a balance.



We don't do charity in Germany, we pay taxes. Charity is a failure of governments' responsibilities - Henning Wehn

https://ddue.uk
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Forum Guide
OP Offline
Forum Guide
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,034
Thanks for doing the Maths, that was beyond me!


Moderated by  Mod 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Random Wirral Images

Click to View Topic.
Newest Topics
What Happened To The Jiggers?
by Erainn - 17th May 2024 8:49pm
Grange Road Co-Op
by Erainn - 6th May 2024 3:08pm
garage wanted
by robin47 - 3rd May 2024 5:53pm
Plastic sheds
by muzzy2 - 2nd May 2024 2:41pm
For Sale & Free
PC/Xbox Gamepad & Accessories
by Catsick - 14th May 2024 9:05am
Member Spotlight
KevinFinity
KevinFinity
Wirral
Posts: 2,354
Joined: April 2009
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
New Wirral Info
Help Needed for Virginia Creeper Removal
by Rinchen - 28th Apr 2024 2:08pm
Wanted Gardener
by dodie - 24th Apr 2024 1:09pm
Paddle Steamer Waverley
by diggingdeeper - 5th Apr 2024 7:57am
Restaurant/pub with outdoor seating - Bromborough
by CarterUSM - 7th Aug 2020 8:59pm
News : New Topics
turkish sofa
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 8:24pm
italian furniture
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 7:07pm
leather sofa set
by Jasontodd - 29th Apr 2024 4:47pm
New Enthusiast Forums
garage wanted
by robin47 - 3rd May 2024 5:53pm
Plastic sheds
by muzzy2 - 2nd May 2024 2:41pm
Looking for an old engine
by TheComputerLab - 27th Apr 2024 3:11pm
Car paint jobs
by PaulRobson - 15th Apr 2024 9:54pm
The Co-op Ghoul
by Erainn - 11th Jan 2021 2:54pm
Popular Topics(Views)
5,074,779 WIKI WALK CHAT
4,025,612 Spotted!
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5