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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064435
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Better read this then Casper. I'm sure you can find plenty to keep you occupied. Snippets posted.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/5/the-treaty-of-lisbon

when you see the words, 'exclusive competence' you can refer to this.

http://en.euabc.com/word/476

and you will read this... ' Exclusive competence '

When the EU has an exclusive competence member states are not permitted to make their own laws concerning that area.
If the EU has a shared competence both the EU and the member states may make laws, but EU law has primacy over any adopted national law, and may override the right to make national laws in the area covered by an EU law.
Article 3 TFEU of the Lisbon Treaty defines the following areas as exclusive EU competences: the competition rules within the internal market, the customs union, the common commercial policy, monetary policy for the Euro countries, the conservation of marine biological resources under the common fishing policy and the conclusion of international agreements as exclusive competences if the EU has a corresponding internal competence

http://en.euabc.com/word/577

Internal Market.

The Lisbon Treaty made the "internal market" a shared competence (Art. 4 TFEU). EU law therefore suppress member states' existing legislation and right to legislate in these areas. Necesarry competition rules for the functioning of the internal market are an exclusive competence of the Union (Art. 3 TFEU) and therefore member states may not legislate

http://en.euabc.com/word/2077 (easier read) and an A-Z index.

THe Lisbon Treaty includes virtually all of the provisions of the Treaty Establishing a Constitution for Europe which was rejected by French and Dutch voters in referendums in 2005. Instead of being adopted directly in the proposed EU Constituion, they were adopted indirectly in the form of amendments to the existing treaties in what was called The Lisbon Treaty.The term Lisbon Treaty is now generally used to refer to the Consolidated EU Treaties - all the treaties and amendments governing European integration from the Treaty of Rome up to the present time.
The Lisbon Treaty has been changed a few times since 2009 because of the financial crisis. It has followed the Nice Treaty, the Treaty of Amsterdam, the Treaty of Maastricht, The Single European Act and the Treaty of Rome. All treaties have given the EU more powers and introduced more majority voting at the supranational level.

The Lisbon Treaty established 106 new powers for the EU, and 68 new areas for decision by qualified majority in the Council

and this at the bottom of the page ! Did anyone tell us ?

507 million EU citizens have been equipped with an additional EU citizenship on top of their national citizenship. One can only be a citizen of a state


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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064436
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Where on earth did you copy that from? You realise its wholly made up!

The Lisbon Treaty was ratified and brought into UK law before 2010.


Did I mean the Europe 2020 strategy ? laffin

but it's not all made up, I have read various articles relating to some of those points mentioned.. AND I don't like the EU anyway, it stinks and nibbles away a little at a time taking more and more. I'm not EU citizen either, but somehow it looks as if it happened when I was asleep.

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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064445
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The Europe 2020 strategy is a 10 year wish-list. its another program of committee meetings with the old boys network getting plenty of money out of it. The previous 10 year strategy achieved very little, the next hasn't been named.


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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064457
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The 2020 strategy was set out in 2010 for the transition period up to 2020. In 2020 the EU 2030 strategy begins. We don't know much about the yet.

They have gradually brought in a lot of control measures to ensure that Brussels has Governance , and that includes all categories of our lives .


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I see yet again the EU are trying the hard border nugget for Ireland, perhaps we should remind them about most of the 450 mile border between France and Brazil etc. Its exactly the same scenario yet only a few of the crossing points are full time.

Do the EU want to sub-contract the building of a wall to Trump Inc. ?


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Re: Project Fear III [Re: diggingdeeper] #1064524
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
I see yet again the EU are trying the hard border nugget for Ireland, perhaps we should remind them about most of the 450 mile border between France and Brazil etc. Its exactly the same scenario yet only a few of the crossing points are full time.

Do the EU want to sub-contract the building of a wall to Trump Inc. ?



France and Brazil ? There's a 450 kilometre border between France and Germany, does that mean anything ?


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