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Posted By: fish5133 Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 11:13am
From time to time my gardening customers ask me to do a bit of shed attic clearing. Recently done one where there was a number of tied up bags so I thought would check what I was taking tip. Turned out to be a lot of new sealed items all the same. Not particularly valueable. Retailing on ebay around 10 for £15 inc posting. Now I know they are nothing to do with my customer but possibly her son. Done a bit of searching to see if a burglary at a potential source but no luck.
Don't particularly want to ask the customer about them.
Obviously would like to benefit from selling them but don't want to drop myself in the proverbial. Added complication in that the customer works for the police!!!
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 11:27am
I would worry Fish, I have never heard of cash con:::ters being done for handling stolen goods, and they do it on a daily basis. I think it is a case of if you handled them knowing them to be stolen that breaks the law.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 11:33am
Actually came across a recent burglary at a potential source..although miles away...have asked the local constabulary there as they have a crime number..at least want to cover my back. .
Just read up a little "Believeing" and "Knowing" them to be stolen are not the same.
I will do my due diligence before selling them.... may even offer a few free ones on here!!
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 11:45am
Ok I will take a chance and give you a tenner for the lot smile
Posted By: Excoriator Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 12:04pm
Why don't you point them out to the owner of the shed and ask them where they came from? They may have been honestly acquired, and he may not be interested in what you do with them.

At least you will have taken 'due diligence' to ascertain whether you may be handling stolen goods or not. Even taking them to the tip might be construed as illegally disposing of evidence or something.
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 12:10pm
I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 12:25pm
Originally Posted by Dilly
I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile


Have you got batteries and an air pump at the ready?
Posted By: Salmon Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 3:51pm
Just a thought . Could your customer have asked you to get rid because they know what they are and don't want to be seen to be associated with them?
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by diggingdeeper
Originally Posted by Dilly
I'm intrigued to know what is in them smile


Have you got batteries and an air pump at the ready?


I have no idea what you are suggesting DD smile
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 6:20pm
Very boring items really..DD has got me guessing.. EX. if they had been honestly acquired I wouldn't think someone would have gone to the trouble of re packing them as they have. Nothing else in the shed that might have given me a clue and not the sort of thing you would specifically target bit heavy and bulky and lowish value. Possibly someone pilfering them over time from a place of work.
Possibly a job lot acquired to sell on...
Spooky as I was typing the police phoned me...at least not from the burglary in Yorkshire.....There advice....if don't hear from them in a week or two do with them what I want
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 6:30pm
Originally Posted by fish5133
Very boring items really..DD has got me guessing.. EX. if they had been honestly acquired I wouldn't think someone would have gone to the trouble of re packing them as they have. Nothing else in the shed that might have given me a clue and not the sort of thing you would specifically target bit heavy and bulky and lowish value. Possibly someone pilfering them over time from a place of work.
Possibly a job lot acquired to sell on...
Spooky as I was typing the police phoned me...at least not

from the burglary in Yorkshire.....There advice....if don't hear from them in a week or two do with them what I want

Ok I raise my bid to 15 quid for the lot smile
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 6:45pm
You would be quids in Dilly..reckon about £250 worth at retail prices..Not that you would have any use for all of them....

When in the clear. think I will photo a part and put it on here in the "what is it thread" and the first correct guess or guesses pmd to me can have a free one.
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 7:03pm
Come on fish, give us a clue sherlock
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 29th Sep 2017 10:39pm
Originally Posted by Dilly
Come on fish, give us a clue sherlock


As its the subject of a police investigation I am obliged not to say anything that may be taken down and used in evidence against me.

and its not knickers !!
Posted By: Excoriator Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 30th Sep 2017 8:56am
Unless the police gave you this instruction in writing it's unprovable. I'd be inclined to write to them or send them an email confirming what you have been told, in writing, and tell them you are going to sell them.

That way, it's on record and you can show you have done all you can to obey the law. You do not want to find yourself prosecuted because someone - possibly inadvertently - gave you wrong information.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 30th Sep 2017 2:29pm
Cheers EX....I did email them explaining the situation but they have only responded by phone call. Apparently Yorkshire police have forwarded my email to Merseyside police and put it on the police national database. Opening a can of worms ! Not as if the things would make decent xmas gifts.
Posted By: missmahjong Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 4th Oct 2017 10:02am
Sounds VERY intriguing... let us know the outcome .
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 4th Oct 2017 10:49am
Be warned ladies !

You can be prosecuted for handling swollen goods smile
Posted By: missmahjong Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 4th Oct 2017 12:00pm
How Rude ...lol
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 4th Oct 2017 9:13pm
Police have given me the all clear..so some clues..PM me.

1) better suited for left handed men than women

2) with a little addition could be used in love making

3) not sure if used when the tall ships came to Liverpool

4) 8+2=1

5) useless for sowing

Posted By: venice Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 11:26am
Flipping heck fish , those are SOOOO random -- you should ask that people give you the connections they see to the clues too .Hope you will put them online here afterwards , should be a good laugh.At the moment, I have no ideas at all!
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 3:39pm
Difficult not trying to make it too obvious. how about a random photo



Attached picture shed clearance (7).JPG
Posted By: venice Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 5:08pm
Oh yeah! its a ........... erm , a whatsit thingy. Obvious now liar
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 5:26pm
sorry venice ...someone who has used them would know....that's why I gave first clue...I could equally have said "better suited for right handed men than women" for risk of being sexist..

I reckon Dilly has used them and sure he may give you a hand with the clues

Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 8:23pm
I think the clue is in hand, but can't put my finger on it yet sherlock
Posted By: RUDEBOX Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 8:33pm
Can make no sense of the clues, whatsover- however the picture looks 'familiar'

Teddies? Slippers? think
Posted By: cools Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 8:38pm
Welding gloves perhaps????
Posted By: Dilly Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 8:54pm
Originally Posted by cools
Welding gloves perhaps????


Don't know what you get up to Cools, but welding gloves being used in lovemaking? nono
Posted By: j_demo Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 9:09pm
I wanna say oven mitts but the love making and tallships clues are throwing me.
Posted By: cools Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 9:11pm
Hot stuff me Dilly, (I wish) haha...So you haven't read 50 shades of grey then???...
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 10:10pm
ok guys venice got close enough as did others Cools and. Actually riggers gloves

1) better suited for left handed men than women (left was just to throw you...mainly used by men..heavy jobs)

2) with a little addition could be used in love making (add g and you get glove making )

3) not sure if used when the tall ships came to Liverpool (rigging)

4) 8+2=1 8 fingers plus 2 thumbs equals 1 pair

5) useless for sowing (that was to suggest hands and fingers)

photo is the stitching

apologise for randomness... game over.
Posted By: venice Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 5th Oct 2017 10:22pm
It was a nice change fish . I miss the "where is and what is that" forum , it hasnt been used for ages . My camera misbehaving or Id post something there. Anyone fancy resurrecting that forum ? ( Sub heading under forum entertainment heading )
Posted By: missmahjong Re: Handling Stolen Goods Unknowingly? - 6th Oct 2017 9:25am
LOVE IT ...
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