Forums
Posted By: mikeeb Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 19th Sep 2020 3:05pm
Very interesting site here detailing all the stage coaches and ferrys timetables and names. The site also has national stage coach timetables.

"Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's Cheshire

Here are the timetables for all the stage-coaches, and passenger-boats, running in Cheshire in the spring of 1830. If Ye Worlde Wide Webbe had existed in 1830, this page could have been used to plan real journeys.

The first map shows the routes within Cheshire. Click on a stopping place (black dot) to see a list of coaches stopping there, click on a coach in the list to view its timetable."

http://www.carlscam.com/coach.htm
Posted By: Greenwood Re: Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 21st Sep 2020 4:08pm
That's fascinating! Thanks for posting. What a resource it would be for anyone writing fiction set in those times. Some of the stagecoach names are quite entertaining.
Posted By: granny Re: Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 21st Sep 2020 8:24pm
The service running all over the country from London . I bet a few ended up in ditches. I;m looking for pictures now. Interesting subject ,mikeeb..

London to Liverpool 'The Albion'

ï‚·Distance 207 miles, Journey time 24 hours ï‚·Depart London 6.30 pmï‚·4 seats inside, 8outsideï‚·Operator William Chaplin & Co Numbers 3442, 3441

London to Liverpool ' The Express'

Distance 218 miles, Journey time 26hours ï‚·Depart London 5.00 pm, Liverpool 5.30 pmï‚·4 seats inside, 8outsideï‚·Operator S A Mountain & Co Numbers 3477, 3494, 3539,35

London to Livrpool 'The Umpire'

Distance 211 miles. Journey time 24 hours ï‚·Depart London 2.00 pm. Liverpool 12.00 noonï‚·4 seats inside, 11outsideï‚·Operator Benjamin Worthy Horne & Co Numbers 3505, 3560, 3562

Note : 4 seats inside ... 11 seats outside omg

http://www.friern-barnethistory.org.uk/userfiles/file/The_Area/Transport/Stage-Coach-Routes.pdf

Posted By: granny Re: Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 21st Sep 2020 8:43pm
Last one is the London to Birmingham... They must have been freezing cold and sodden wet at times. crazy
.

Attached picture 4282190250_d67128e19f 1880s Victorian Album Print _Stage Coach_L.jpg
Attached picture tally ho coach 1836.jpg
Attached picture The London to Birmingham Stage Coach John Cordrey 1801 Lon.jpg
Posted By: granny Re: Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 21st Sep 2020 8:53pm
Interesting to note, that despite almost 200 yrs on, the distance with new road systems etc is no different.

Google search Today London to Liverpool 220 miles.

In 1830's : 207, 218, 211 respectively. I wonder how they measured the distance back then ?

The Albion went to Chester and Woodside before Liverpool , so must have crossed on the old ferry boats too.

It started it's journey from here. The Swan and Two Necks.



Attached picture Swan2Necks.jpg
Posted By: mikeeb Re: Stage-Coach Timetables in 1830's - 22nd Sep 2020 11:12am
Nice find Granny.
It's good to see the Express and the Umpire still running in 1836.
In 1830 it doesn't show any stage-coaches to LIverpool via Birkenhead. I wonder, did the ferries take stage-coaches in 1830 because it would have been quicker than going around Warrington?
You are right about the outside seats though, that must have been horrific for 24+ hours, haha!
Another thing, they must have stopped, and swapped the driver and horses at least once on the journey.

With the dawn of the steam engines coming up, I wonder how long these long haul stage-coach journeys lasted for?
© Wirral-Wikiwirral