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Posted By: granny Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 3:39pm
Just found this bit of info.

In Burdett's map of Cheshire 1777 it was shown to have 16 windmills, 12 of which where on Wirral.

It also shows 140 water mills in Cheshire, the majority used for corn milling .

There was also a tide mill at Bromborough Pool

Can anyone list the 12 windmills, and did we have any watermills ?

Thought this might keep a few brains ticking..and it doesn't give any answers as to location.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 5:03pm
Pretty sure there were more than twelve windmills, here's a start (some had more than one)

Capenhurst
Bidston
Eastham
Willaston
Wallasey
Gayton
Great Neston
Burton
Great Saughall
Irby
Spital
Higher Bebington

Water Mills

Bromborough tidal
Raby
Wallasey Pool
Brimstage
Spital
Posted By: derekdwc Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 6:41pm
1777 Burdett map
I think DD may have left off his list Tranmere and Saughall Massey

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Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 6:58pm
Yep, I should have got Tranmere and Thingwall. I'd guess there were well over 20 sites.
Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 8:46pm
Maybe some listed were not built in 1777. Willaston was built after that date ,I think.
Posted By: derekdwc Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 9:05pm
Granny, not sure if you only want the names of circa 1777 or all the windmills that have been on Wirral.
Try the A Bryant 1831 map
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Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 9:25pm
Derek, I don't mind however many there are, but just thought that if he only had 12 listed for Wirral, maybe others were built later than his map dated 1777.

Should we put some pics up, if we can find any ?

Here's the Tide Mill at Bromborough Pool . One recorded there in Doomsday Book.



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Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 10:09pm
The second Irby Mill, thought to have been built around 1720

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http://www.greasby.btck.co.uk/IrbyMillCottagePub


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Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 10:33pm
Burdett is missing some - Breck Mill was built in 1765 on the site of a wooden one that was there at least one hundred years earlier.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Windmills on Wirral - 16th Jul 2015 10:39pm
Caldy Windmill is missing too.
Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 17th Jul 2015 12:05am
Poulton Mill...where was that ? Also 'Two Mills' at the junction of the Welsh Road and Chester High Road, do you know which mills that may refer to ?
Posted By: marty99fred Re: Windmills on Wirral - 17th Jul 2015 10:29am
The twelve windmills on the Burdett map are:

1 Wallasey (normally known as Liscard Mill)
2 Bidston
3 Saughall Massie
4 Irby
5 Thingwall
6 Higher Bebington (on Storeton Heath)
7 Gayton
8 Great Neston
9 Willaston
10 Eastham
11 Burton (incorrectly marked with a watermill symbol instead of a windmill)
12 A New Mill (on the Chester Road between Ledsham and Great Saughall - later known as the Gibbett Mill)

There are also two tidal watermills marked at the head of Wallasey Pool and one on Bromborough Pool, and ordinary watermills on Thornton Heath (Raby Mill) and Stanney.
Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 17th Jul 2015 8:30pm
Thanks Marty. I wonder why he didn't list the rest of them
Posted By: Anonymous Re: Windmills on Wirral - 17th Jul 2015 8:50pm
I've no photo, but there was one adjacent to Storeton Quarry. It doesn't seem to be listed.

Oops, sorry it IS on the list (Storeton Heath) Goes back to sleep!
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Windmills on Wirral - 17th Jul 2015 10:33pm
Going back a few years to 1086, there were two mills listed in the Domesday Book namely Eastham and Prenton. The mills of that age could have been water or animal powered but I think in this instance they would both be water mills.
Posted By: granny Re: Windmills on Wirral - 18th Jul 2015 10:34am
The History of Watermills

The first documented use of watermills was in the first century BC and the technology spread quite quickly across the world. Commercial mills were in use in Roman Britain and by the time of the Doomsday Book in the late 11th Century there were more than 6,000 watermills in England. By the 16th Century waterpower was the most important source of motive power in Britain and Europe. The number of watermills probably peaked at more than 20,000 mills by the 19th Century.......


http://www.jesmonddeneoldmill.org.uk/mill/technology.html

Windmills

http://seor.gmu.edu/student_project/syst202_00f/smod04/history.html

Posted By: chriskay Re: Windmills on Wirral - 18th Jul 2015 3:15pm
Here's a picture of the Higher Bebington windmill, close to Storeton quarry. This was the quarry to the East of Mount Road which was filled with the waste from the Wallasey tunnel.
This is what it looks like today.


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Posted By: chriskay Re: Windmills on Wirral - 18th Jul 2015 4:28pm
If you do a search for "Wirral windmills pictures" you'll find loads of pictures, both photos and paintings, although there are some which aren't Wirral.
Posted By: petethebike Re: Windmills on Wirral - 18th Jul 2015 7:17pm
I suspect that it was back filled with the surplus material excavated from the 2nd bore,the material from the 1st being used in embankments and general fill areas.Bidston Moss had a rather large capacity for absorbing things!!!
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