Got a call from distraught daughter to collect from the boot in the small hours of Sunday morning, as her n boyfriend leaving a group of blokes decided it was time for a 'straightener' in the road outside. After the scuffle, one individual was left trying to break a budweiser bottle over the back of another persons head, apparently gave ita bloody good go before giving up. The recipient was then kicked forcibly in the head while laying inert on the road. A second individual was lying near the door of the pub, both at one point prior to ambulances and police arriving were described as 'unresponsive'. No idea of extent of injuries, or cause of issue, just glad ambulances arrived quite quickly and was able to get mine home in one piece, however selfish that sounds.

Good God that all sounds awful. Not being familiar with that area, I thought at first glance at post, that someone had deemed to lock your daughter in a car boot which would have been bad enough , but actual events seem to have turned into something even more shocking. Not sure what a 'straightner' is ,so dont know if BF was trying to mediate between some others, or if he started something, but either way Im so glad your offspring got well out of it. Hopefully if it happens that daughters BF was a troublemaker, she will have seen worst side of him enough to dump.

I don't think it was the op daughters Bf.
I think the daughter and Bf were leaving as things kicked off.

Let's hope everyone is OK

Seems road at end of liscard grove to past boot pub was closed to about 9am Sunday according to highways agency because of a police incident, was clear at 9.20am when I passed but sand all over road where fighting took place. Walton neurological had a couple of admissions as a result, thoughts go out to families involved.

This is why i pick decent bars in liverpool or manchester...the english love to cane the ale and fight...it just us as a nation.violent.

Many other countries have the same problems (US, Germany, Russia, Italy, Spain etc) its just effective propaganda by our own media that makes us believe we are worse. The same goes for football hooliganism of course.

I dont live in those countries though i live here and ive seen 15 years of moron scally drunk stereotypical violence all over uk in front of me. Were obssessed with drink (even the yanks say that,its cheaper than pop here) even our forces have a massive drinking culture.
As a country if were fed dole fags ale were happy

Another difference is if you kick off in germany italy etc youll get stamped on by hard military type police.
Here cause were weak you get a slap on a wrist and delt with by an 8 stone girl or a fat sweaty lard bucket copper who wants overtime.
In the usa how many fights you see at baseball usa football match...not many
Loads of families go.
If you get caught fighting there you go to jail here you get a fine.

Alcohol is cheaper in the States than here - they haven't significantly increased the duty since the 1950's.

A six pack in the States is between $7(£4.60) and $10 ($6.60) for named brands.

In decent Bars its is about the same price as here but cheaper in cheap Bars. Restaurants have the same sort of rip-off prices as here with ridiculous mark-ups.

Apart from that, I agree with your sentiments, there are far too many people use alcohol in order to behave appallingly and not blame themselves.

When someone uses alcohol as an excuse in courts, I think they should be penalised more heavily, the "I'm sorry it was the alcohol not me" can be equated to "it was the baseball bat not me".