been told post office and news agents by upton station there was an armed robbery earlier two men on motorbike a male stepped in to help he now in hospital with injuries hit in head with gun

helicopter still going round seems like the top of ford hill

Wasnt that robbed only a few weeks ago i remember going past and seeing the shutters all broken ,must be heartbreaking for the owners.

hopefully they get caught soon so they can get a christmas dinner in nick for many many years

I live 2 mins away, police were everywhere earlier on, all over bidston and round the hill, theres also been a big crash on bidston road a lorry is right across the road and a motorbike is supposed to be stuck underneath it, not sure if the 2 incidents are related.

Why can people not just leave themselves to themselves?

I hope the guys ok but really? Is it worth trying to help when firearms are involved?

These places are insured, leave them to it, don`t retaliate and no one will get hurt.

This type of thing always happens around this time of year.

Some people just have something inside them that says NO! and they react without thinking it through. i used to be similar and i would always act first think later. After many years of military discipline i am no longer like that, thoughts race through my head at a million mph thinking every scenario, got to say though i dont know which i prefer as sometimes actions are needed and i step down to prevent any escalation.

tricky one really. Hope the guy is ok and pulls through, next time someone has a gun he may think twice about jumping in with his head!

I don't know anything other than is in this post. Ste I would agree with what you say but would it be a bit different if he stepped in to help a member of the staff - I know the counterstaff in there are woman and if they were being attacked maybe he was trying to help them?
I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to step in gun versus money but I don't know that I could stand back and watch another human being getting battered without doing something.

There would be no violence if the staff handed the cash over in the 1st place which is what they are ordered to do via management.
There is no point in arguing with these people, they want the cash, give them the cash and it`s over with.
Let the police handle it and the insurance companys.
Life is worth more than a load of cash or ones reputation being embarrased.

Until you've actually been in a situation you don't know how you will react. Some who shout about what they would do turn to jelly when the actual crisis arises and others who don't say a word react in the bravest way possible, some panic, others don't. You can never tell until it happens. I just hope the bloke is ok because he reacted in a courageous manner whatever anyone else thinks, good luck to him.

Don't see anyone except OP claiming there was a gun involved. Chances are pretty high that one wasn't - and if it was chances are pretty high again that it was an airpistol.

I've just come home and the road is still blocked

It's on Wirral Globe no mention of anyone shot, but does mention a bike!!

The original comment didn't say anyone had been shot but that they "allegedly" had been hit in the head with a gun.

+1

100% with this. I always thought I was quite brave and would try to help if I ever got caught up in a situation like this ................... That was until I witnessed the Lloyds bank in moreton being robbed a couple of years ago. One of them even fell in front of me and near enough knocked himself out on the back of the getaway car and I just stood frozen, staring at him. I think partly because I had my son with me and mostly because of the violence I saw them using towards the bank staff and cash van staff.
... like these don't care how much they injure you - I now know that I'd just watch them get on with it if I ever saw it happen again.
As mentioned earlier, banks, post offices e.t.c. are insured - not worth the risk to be a hero in my eyes. However I do have full repect for anyone who does try.

Globe now says it was a gunman and 3 youth arrested in connection with. Hopefully justice will be satisfied.

Well it certainly is starting to look like it wasn't their day after all - RFLMFAO

Motorbike crash youths arrested over armed robbery at Upton post office

Dec 1 2011 By Lorna Hughes

THREE youths involved in a motorbike crash were arrested in connection with an armed robbery at a post office in Upton.

A man armed with a firearm threatened staff and customers at Martins Newsagents and post office on Upton Road just before 10.40am this morning.

He assaulted the manager of the shop and escaped with a large amount of cash.

It is thought he then got onto the back of a motorbike/ scrambler bike before riding in the direction of Birkenhead via Noctorum Avenue.

The three youths were arrested on suspicion of robbery and theft of a motorbike after the bike they were travelling on collided with a Mitsubishi Jeep on Bidston Road at around 12.30pm.

They were taken to hospital to be treated for their injuries, which are not thought to be life-threatening.

The manager of Martins Newsagent suffered a head injury and was also taken to hospital but his condition is not thought to be serious.

Merseyside Police Detective Inspector Mark Watson said: "Incidents of this nature are rare in this area, and I'm sure local residents would agree that those responsible need to be brought to justice.

"This must have been a very frightening ordeal for the staff and I would appeal for anyone who has any information about this incident to contact 0151 777 2265 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111."

The offender is described as wearing black clothing, aged 20-30 years and of slim build.

The shop has been sealed off for forensic examination and house to house enquiries are continuing.
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good effort that man, hope he is ok

Yes,what great news! Just hope all the victims recover soon,as for the scumbags lets hope they get a hefty sentence.

lets see them stand toe to toe with the have a go hero without a weapon, that wud teach em

They must be making absolutely sure that they leave nothing to chance with the road still being closed at 5 oclock

'.....these places are insured, leave them to it, don`t retaliate and no one will get hurt....'

'....There would be no violence if the staff handed the cash over in the 1st place which is what they are ordered to do via management.
There is no point in arguing with these people, they want the cash, give them the cash and it`s over with.....'

Sorry..that's not right. There has been many instances where staff, customers & bystanders have been hurt by robbers during and after robberies whilst no attempt has been made to hinder them in the robbery or their escape. Villains will often times lash out while hyped-up on the power they feel over the innocent.

I myself have no idea how I would react in a similar situation and wouldn't dare to give advice over something like this.
The police do issue warnings to the public not to take action but they know that each situation is responded upon by members of the public according to their own lights.

so does that mean its ok to break into houses as long as they are insured i think not. !!!!!
its an adrenalin thing when these things happen nobody realy knows how they will react until the time comes and they are in that situation !

THE repercussion will be the insurance bill next renewal - if they will renew.

Snod

to all those out there having a say about todays robbery in upton post office,
FACTS MY 70 YEAR OLD MUM WAS POSTING MAIL AT THIS OFFICE TODAY AND PLEASE TELL ME SHE DESERVED TO HAVE A GUN HELD TO HER HEAD AND BE THROWN ABOUT BY A MINDLESS YOB THE MANAGER OF THE SHOP CAME TO HELP HER IF HE HAD NOT GOD KNOWS WHAT THE OUT COME WOULD HAVE BEEN SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE GUY FROM MARTIN'S FROM MYSELF AND MY FAMILY AND MY BRAVE MUM SO ALL YOU'S OUT THERE WHO THINK THEY DESERVED TO BE TREATED LIKE THIS YOURE JUST AS BAD AS THE ... WHOM DID THIS

Chill out delbtrfc, nobody has said your mum deserved it - it doesn't say that or come close to saying that anywhere on this thread.
Hope she's OK.

JUST LETTING THE GOSSIPS KNOW THE FACTS AND ON THAT NOTE THANKS TO ANYONE WHOM WISHES BOTH MY MUM AND THE GUY FROM MARTIN'S A SPEEDY RECOVERY WHICH WONT HAPPEN OVER NITE. THIS WILL BE A LONG HARD RECOVERY FOR BOTH AND THE LADY WORKING IN THE POST OFFICE TO SO HOW ANYONE COULD MENTION INSURANCE IS BEYOND ME.

Noone has said they deserve to be treated like "this" ??? Like what exactly?

Delb, I appreciate you are upset after todays happenings, but as a new user please take time to understand and appreciate how a forum works. People are intitled to share opinions, including yourself, and all posts are monitored to try and preserve the respect of others.

I see that noone has said anything disrespectful to those involved, but just that a few people have shared some views - which everyone is entitled to do.

On a final note, Im glad they caught the ... who did this, I wish all the victims, the most speedy recovery possible.

Yeah, I agree with this. Most people have no idea how they'd react until put in that situation. Usually you have no time to plan only to react. I suspect I'd chicken out but don't know for certain.
Well done to the lad who stood up to the scumbags. Hope all the victims get better soon although the mental scars will take a lot longer to get over than the physical.

Not just you, i quote every one of your comments, what i said IS the sensible thing to do and it`s what you`re TOLD to do whilst working in such places.
No "i`d do this i`d do that" read properly.




Congrats to that man in the Mitsubishi, thanks to him being a wreckless driver not looking out for motorbikes as typical car users don`t he saved the day

I wonder where they'd been between the robbery at 10am and the accident at 12.30. Clearly they are not that bright else they'd have split up and dumped the bike/s

The whingeing biker must have his say.

Probably nipped into the local dealers for a few pipes to calm their nerves before hitting the rd again



Wrong again son, i drive cars not ride bikes
I do however have friends that ride motorbikes, i look out for them unlike your everyday car driver who couldn`t really give a toss because they wouldn`t get hurt by a bike.



Congrats, bravo, hoorahhh

Ste,so so predictable, have a good weekend

You too friend

i just hope when the scumbags are finnaly brought to court jerramy clarkson is the sentancing judge.

Yessssssssssssssss !!!!!!