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Posted By: venice Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 3:54pm
Im finding that some of the forums I use , are now showing as insecure (the crossed out padlock) . MOneysavingexpert and Hotmail for starters. Ive tried putting Https:// in front, but that doesnt work . Can someone please try Moneysavingexpert to see if it shows a yellow padlock for them -(test the register and log on pages) , and if it does, any suggestions as to why Im getting these insecure forums please?
Posted By: karlb Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 4:10pm
All ok on google chrome what browser you using ? Are you using internet explorer ?
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 5:22pm
Thank you for looking karlb .No Im using Firefox anyone else using Firefox finding moneysavingexpert unsafe site?
Posted By: Salmon Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 5:38pm
I am on Firefox and all Money saving Expert has the padlock.
Posted By: fish5133 Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 5:38pm
I get similar messages for sites that were secure previously like ebay, bbc, bank, facebook I do use IE. Seems to be ok now. Think it may be more to do with security settings not being remembered or ISP ...in my case talk talk
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 5:57pm
Thanks Salmon, its definitely my pc then . Fish, is that me not remembering to set something , or my pc not picking something up it should ?Anyone know whats wrong?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 6:21pm
Current versions of firefox are 56.02, just check its updating, the security certificates come with the updates and do run out.
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 8:03pm
No, thats the version Ive got thanks . Anything else it could be?
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 8:16pm
Have just seen now that wiki via Firefox is showing unsafe too! It wasnt when I wrote my first post and Hotmail is now showing safe! A further check on Chrome and wiki also showing unsafe via that too! Havent a clue whats going on!
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:05pm
In firefox, close down every window and tab, go to "history" - "clear recent history", tick all the boxes, change "time range to clear" to "everything" then hit "clear now". exit firefox then restart it.

If that doesn't work there are two more things to try.
Posted By: karlb Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:10pm
Yes getting the same on wiki from mixed content http requests on a https site from http://img1.jurko.net probably ads
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:19pm
karl , mine on wiki is even the login , I signed out and in again to test. DD thanks Ill look at doing that .Whats 'site preferences' do - Ive not ticked that one before since I didnt know.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:24pm
You can set up, different settings for different sites, most people never use it, its things like cookie control and trust levels, I use it very occasionally but resetting them is generally a good thing.
Posted By: karlb Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:52pm
It's gone for me now all secure so i think it was a poorly coded ad
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:56pm
That worked for Wiki DD thanks, its just gone secure , but moneysaving expert is still insecure . Weird
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 9:58pm
MSE is secure on the initial page, but insecure when I try to log in
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 10:12pm
Ok, try opening firefox in its safe-mode. Whatever you click to open firefox, hold the shift key down while you click (or double-click) it.

This disables all add-ons etc, see if the problems still happen while its in safe mode. Exit it and open firefox normally and see if it hangs in there.

BTW have you run malwarebytes, if anything unusual happens it should be the first thing to do, just in case.
Posted By: karlb Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 10:27pm
Or in chrome ctrl+shift+i for developer mode and click on the security tab will show you insecure items "may have to reload page"
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 10:29pm
I finsished a trial of full MWB yesterday (I was having this trouble before that) and today they keep asking me if I want to have the updated free version and Im not sure . I presume before running it , that that will be ok to do?

After that, Im not sure about opening FF in safe mode and knocking off add ons because I wouldnt know how to reset FF which it says I would need to do.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 10:37pm
I always switch the MWB trial off as soon as I install it and just stick to the free version. Its good to let it do the update.

Firefox safe mode doesn't do anything funny, it loads in safe mode with the shift key, the next time its run without holding the shift key it loads the same as normal, nothing special to do.

I'd forgotten about firefox reset, used it once a long time ago, considered it too much hassle to have to make all my customisations again to bother using it again.
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 11:38pm
MSE is showing insecure in FF safemode as well as ordinary .

I thought Id upgrade to the supposedly newer version of MBytes before running it , so clicked on the yes button this time they asked me (its been coming up every whipstitch and Ive been clicking it off) and I agreed to the change etc then the wizard is announced, and then this screen came up " unable to execute file in the temporary directory . Set up aborted. Error 5. Access is denied. I clicked cancel , and then another screen came up saying the installation would complete until closed and reopened . It did that, but when it reopened , no MBytes of any description remained .Just gone!
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 13th Nov 2017 11:51pm
Originally Posted by karlb
Or in chrome ctrl+shift+i for developer mode and click on the security tab will show you insecure items "may have to reload page"


Not sure if I understood you correctly, but I used chrome to bring up MSE and then forum, then clickd on sec tab in dev mode and it just confirmed it was an insecure site, but didnt say anything about reloading or anything.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 14th Nov 2017 12:07am
If the same is happening in Chrome as well as Firefox then its an operating system problem.

Re-install malwarebytes from https://www.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

Don't click any "upgrade" buttons, big difference between upgrade and update.
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 14th Nov 2017 12:59am
This explains some of it I reckon. I emailed MSE and got this back.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=72027723#post72027723


Thanks DD , will reinstate MB tomorrow.
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 14th Nov 2017 1:26am
While secure sites are really needed in this day and age, the amount of work it sometimes creates can be a nightmare.

I've converted most of my sites relatively easily (because I wrote all the code) but there is one which uses 3rd party software I'm unsure about and another site which I haven't got a clue where to start so that is in limbo. The problem isn't so much the doing, its the testing to try and find if any features have been compromised.

Mark did very well converting WikiWirral, I was logging in pretty often to see where he had problems but he did such a good job that I learnt nothing, good for him, less good for me smirk
Posted By: venice Re: Insecure sites. - 14th Nov 2017 1:35am
Thats interesting DD, what sort of sites do you run , or do you create them for customers ?
Posted By: diggingdeeper Re: Insecure sites. - 14th Nov 2017 4:09am
Originally Posted by venice
Thats interesting DD, what sort of sites do you run , or do you create them for customers ?


Not really allowed to say on here, I don't do any commercial ones but I have over ten sites for different purposes.

There is one that Mark gave me permission to use in my signature which is fuller sets of pictures of my explores etc, its got over 10,000 pictures on it from 170 visits. I don't want to link it publicly yet as I don't want it to pop into google before I decide if I'm going to carry on using the 3rd party photo-gallery software or not.
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